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Originally posted by BloodRain
I agreed that Bill is slower though is still able to follow Eric's movements. Apparently I'm agreeing with you with this?

Showing me a feat obviously below supersonic to which humans keep track? See that 'I can' is the main issue here. You, the viewer, are able to keep up. Once again in some things I can clearly see a bullet in flight,, does this mean that fictions bullets are not all that fast?



Because lots of characters with supersonic speed tend to have a few tons of strength, like Russ, or way better abilities. At least decent characters do.

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Originally posted by Sacred 117
SW has an expanded universe far extending the films. By only examining the films, you're stuck with minimal information. You would have to study everything beyond that to make a more sufficient conclusion.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
If you agree he is faster than you agree with me.

It shows that they are faster than bullets. Thanks for agreeing.

No, they don't. Russell's strength and speed are insane.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
And every time I say Bill can keep up you respond by saying I'm agreeing with you. Obviously these words agree with your point as you wont refuse them.

Are you really using your own person sight as a viewer to dictate the speed of bullets? Either that or you believe that if we see the bullets in flight, than the characters are above that speed?


Yeah, for anyone below the supersonic/low ton range. For those at or above? Not so threatening.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you agreed he was faster I'm not going to care to prove he is much faster as its a waste of time and you already believe he's faster.
I believe they are above the speed whereas lasers aren't as fast as bullets here.

Not all characters are above this and he's far faster than many characters such as any weak Zelda character.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Then I go back to my original point that Bill can keep track of Eric, and will do so unopposed. Much obliged.

Biased? You believe that when we can see bullets move in one fiction it means 'they are above the speed', yet when we see blasters its only that the blasters must be a lot slower than bullets, despite evidence? You refusing proof doesn't stop it being true.



I said for characters at or above supersonic/low ton. Said characters wouldn't be bothered by Russell, but Bill is a different story due to better powers.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Eric is faster and stronger. You agree.
The bullets shown in TB are faster than blasters. Obvious is obvious.

It was a ridiculous blanketed statement. Russell craps all over Zelda characters in terms of speed/strength combo.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Bill can follow Eric's speed. You don't disagree.

Prove it.


Blanketed? Two characters equal in body, the skilled/one with better powers win. Obviously.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't have to disagree since you agreed Eric is faster and stronger.

You can't follow the bullets with your naked eye but can follow the blasts.

Russell definitely craps all over any Zelda characters.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
So I can now state that Bill can track Eric? Cool. Official then.

Bullets are what, an inch long and half an inch thick? Blaster bolts are thicker about about a foot long, not to mention painfully bright. Which is easier to see? /science

"Two characters equal in body, the skilled/one with better powers win. Obviously." Did I mention Zelda?

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Eric is faster so I could care less you agree with me.

Blasters are obviously slower as well.

I said on direct comparison and you have no choice but to agree.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Cool, by your word Eric is faster and Bill can tag him. This will be useful.

Prove it.

"Two characters equal in body, the skilled/one with better powers win. Obviously." Did I mention Zelda?

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Those were your words.
You first,.

You tried comparing Russell overall to fictional characters in the most general sense while in an attempt to downplay him. Russell's speed and strength craps on Zelda verse.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Really? Because you've done nothing but say we agree at every turn, so obviously you think we have the same opinion here. If I say Bill follows Eric and you say we agree, thats all I need. So go ahead as say we agree again so I can use this fact in other threads if needs be.

Thats what I thought. You can constantly post something but can't back it up. Blasters are fast, ranging from 100m/s to hypersonic speeds from others work. Supersonic is an average showing. I'll be waiting for the proof you have that confirms they're not supersonic in your next post.


Downplay him? I admitted he has speed and strength, its just thats all. Which is true. Don't be so paranoid.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I said Eric is faster and stronger than Bill. You agreed. Convo ended.

You never back it up either and try to nerd math your way through these debates.

Strength and speed is quite a combination. He also can glamour and fly but you don't care it's all about downplaying.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
And I said Bill can still keep up with Eric. You did not disagree. You said we agreed. I can tennis this back to you each post. In the end unless you can say otherwise, both of my points will stand

Sorry to say, math and/or the movie > your option. Funny, I don't see your proof here. Did you forget? Overlook it? I'm sure you'll remember this time, seeing as you can prove your claim right?


Quite frankly flight is not much of a game changer. And Glamour needs no mention due to its stated limitations. So yes, speed and strength. You can take the tinfoil off now.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
It does not matter as you agreed Eric is clearly stronger and faster than him.

No, your math is nerd math and silly to argue.

Glamour still works and that is another ability. You can ignore them all you want but fact of the matter is Russell rapes whoever he wants to.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Then Bill can track Eric's speed, as we're in agreement.

You personally might not like the evidence, but it is still a form of such. You have not given any besides your thoughts about seeing a really bright, long blast compared to a bullet.


I can ignore it as its limitations hinder its Vs threads against supernaturals or those with strong will or spirit.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Eric is above him in every way until the Billith change.
One we can't seem one we can. Pretty obvious.
Who has exceptional will power here.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Can you back up this statement when Bill has followed Eric's movements a few times now?

You mean like how we can easily see a supersonic jet?


Not that I was specifying this thread so much as generally, we have the SW trio with both strong wills and powers (and their own hypnotism) and the Blade vampires for being supernaturals.