Rocky trains to punch, McClane doesn't. Sure it's not a boxing match, but a boxer trains to deliver proper punches... meaning proper alignment of the fists so you don't crank your wrists and proper delivery of punches so you maximize power even doing short punches.
McClane has none of this training, meaning Rocky will punch harder and will have better form. Rocky will cripple McClane's hands.
But in a death match McClane wins because he can't die.
Literally, McClane uses the power of suggestion and that's why he never gets killed. Some people call it luck, it's really projected luck.
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Death match as in no holds barred match then yeah, McClane gets my vote. But in a boxing match or in a bloody knuckles match, only a fool would back up McClane.
Maybe Die Hard 1 hangs tough for a while. But A Good Day to Die Hard gets messed up. However, John McClane Jr. solos fiction.
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Rocky was not a devastating puncher type. He was very durable though.
He was basically Homer Simpson in that episode where Moe gets him to fight for him. (Homer's thick skull ensuring that he could just be punched for like 3 hours until his opponent would be exhausted before Homer would basically push them over. )
He is against McClane here, and his knuckles will be as durable as the rest of him. So Rocky has never faced knuckles this durable before.
Oh wooooowwwwwwww somone able to break ribs bareknuckle.
I guess Rocky (being the only guy ever to have done that in history) must be out busting up people all the time every saturday night...everywhere...
(Or is it not that much of an impressive feat as you make out..? )
You cannot state that 'Mcclane never broke anyone's ribs ever' with any certainty. In fact has a wicked body shot, and most likely DID break ribs.
McClane is demonstratively tougher than slabs of generic animal meat. And that meat didn't punch back either.
Besides Rocky cannot break McClane as McClane will take each and every punch Rocky throws at him and unlike in the Rocky films where he went the distance a whole lot that isn't happening here.. Rocky gets knocked out
His speed certainly improved across the second and the third movies. He was the white man's version of Muhammad Ali, that much is pretty indisputable. /shrugs
DH5, McClane KO's a guy with one punch and the sound affect used made it seem like a side of beef hitting concrete, it was ridiculous, but a feat is a feat.
And if you think boxing techniques translate to something like bloody knuckle contest, you're loony.