So basically you'd rather just downplay Thanos' speed feats, use some random speed Ultraman has never shown, compare the people who have used speed against Thanos to... Ultraman and what sort of speed he should have, and other random shit that's also utterly retarded?
Yes, Hyperion is the deciding factor to show Thanos can deal with speed. Nothing else matters. And because he didn't blitz Thanos, Ultraman blitzes Thanos?
But yes, ignore Thanos' reactions. Ignore his shields. He can't hit Ultraman anymore.
Now you're left with a guy who's only been KO'ed 3 times in comics who's stayed awake from attacks from a Cosmic Cube, Galactus, A being twice Galactus' power, Tyrant, Magus with the IG, Odin, and others.
So combining this all into a scenario that is COMPLETELY LIKELY we have something like this:
Ultraman immediately blitzes Thanos. Naturally he starts flailing his arms around while missing omniblasts, not using shields, and just winging punches. Thanos is like "Oh dawgy, I've reacted to people who made stars streak in the blitz, people going lightspeed in seconds, someone who's blitzed the guy going lightspeed in seconds, and a raging Hulk... But all that is for naught because this guy is also super strong, and even though those others were super strong, they weren't quite as strong. I can fire four different blasts at the same time and even omni blasts, but he's so quick and strong! Hell I can even tp blast people, but I'll never land something like that! This guy really knows how to hit me!
Wait, didn't my first appearance to Earth heroes have me fire a blast capable of destroying a planet? Well that would never hit someone with this super speed and super strength repertoire. And I'm knocked out."
How could I have been in so much denial?
I forgot to mention it seems we compare Runner with the ****ing Space Gem to Ultraman. Because he danced around Thanos.
Thanos' speed feats don't count because speedsters get tagged. He's also in Marvel so that's why we shouldn't use his feats too. What's next, he wears armor so any time he gets hit in the face it's pis that he survived? What does him being purple allow us to ignore while we're at it?
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I told you I based my reasoning on why I see characters with super speed nerfed out, you might not like it and that's fine.
But I think you and I can agree that characters with super speed often forget that power and MAYBE if Hyperion hadn't forgot that he had that power, Thanos and Co. might have not looked that hot in that fight.
Characters with super speed reflexes of microsecond vs nanosecond reaction times have an advantage of at least 15 minutes relatively to attack and defend. That is how big the speed difference is.
And yes Ultraman does not has those feats, I don't think I ever claimed he already has them, but is commonly accepted that Ultraman will be faster than Thanos, while Thanos packs more punch.
Like I said, is my opinion and I respect you point of view and I will say that using the word "delusional" was a poor choice of words on my side, I can see why you might think Thanos wins and is a very respectable point of view, I just think Speed and strength are a very powerful combo.
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I'm not sure you realize just how much physical damage Thanos would tank before his shields went up, or he blasted Ultraman, or just stomped the life out of him. He would likely tank all of it.
Thanos has been reborn for the up coming IG film. The core comic followers will be on a somewhat similar page as the audience in their view of Thanos as the revamped arch villain in marvel. The upgrades were inevitable once he was turned into the convergent villain in the MU- hopefully they don't job him in the future. Thanos (10/10) has a definite implied speed boost and while he is not as fast as UM he most likely will perceive his attacks take blows without damage until he catches Ultraman or slows him down with projectiles(aoe)enough to get blows in then after a few panels it will be over.
Superman fans are the worst, honestly every character has fanboys me included but to look at the lengths they go to trying play up their fave guy and down play others I pathetic
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Please dude, IIRC you tend or used to give the wins to marvel characters.
Let me put it this way, is not that Darseid is physically matched to superman because darkseid is herald weak, is that serious superman can ramp it up to darkseid physical levels.
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Imo Ultraman should end up better than Black Bolt and Thanos in worse shape than when he faced Black Bolt. Black bolt does not has super speed Ulty does
And thus feasible that Thanos ends in worse shape than when he faced Black Bolt.
He might win, but believe me, he is not going to look as hot as he did vs BB
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