The phuck are you talking about? Thor is worthy of wielding the hammer.
Loki can cloud men's thoughts including aliens.
It's an easy game.
The Hulk Loki battle was a cheapshot.
Any film buff will agree.
He just stood there and took the damage. It was bad writing.
Thor 2 proved otherwise. Loki is a strategic genius.
Zod and Faora don't stand a chance.
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Loki doesn't have a single fight where he is this untouchable god. Everyone from Frost Giants to Thor to Hulk tagged him. To pretend that Faora and Zod wouldn't is nothing but stroking marvel characters. Its not how Loki fights.
Only winded? He was phucked up and totally incapacitated. If Hulk can surprise him with his speed, Faora would push his shit in. He doesn't have a single showing where he can contend with a supefast, superstrong, merciless soldier like Faora.
And he is a fool for doing that. Hulk surprised him with his speed and pushed his shit in. Guess who is faster than Hulk here? A huge lulz @ non fighting Loki though.
I'm talking about their Avengers fight where Thor pushed his shit in after Loki went h2h with him. No illusions there either.
We're going round in circles here. Yes, Loki was a fool to try and talk to the Hulk. No one is trying to debate that. You can call him a fool as much as you want, that still doesn't change the fact that HE WASN'T TRYING TO FIGHT HULK.
As far as I know in KMC rules, the combatants here are fully prepared to fight each other, which means Loki will have his illusions ready and at hand. The kryptonians can speed blitz Loki all they want, that won't help if all they're hitting are illusions.
Now, I'm not saying Thor and Loki wins. Majority of the time the Kryptonians will win due to sheer speed and durability. But don't be surprised if the brothers pull out a couple of upsets. Loki's magic is key here, plus Thor's ranged and AOE attacks are more powerful than any the Kryptonians have shown. If Loki's daggers can penetrate Kyrptonian hide then the fight should go 50/50. If not, I'd say 70/30 in favor of the Kryptonians.
There's also the fact that all you need to do is damage Faora's helmet and she's susceptible to an easy KO.
If he had tried to fight the hulk, the result would've been the same. He is a fool and a braggart, you can't just dismiss his showings saying that. He would do the same here as he's fighting in character, you're not fighting in his place.
They are not prepared, they still fight in character and we actually take the fights they have been in the actual canon in account. If you're going to argue powersets, go to CBR.
You're speculating a lot of things here. If and what, Loki's magic has been utterly ineffectual against any opponent he fought, his dagger only made Thor mad and he pushed Loki's shit in and Thor doesn't uses AOE attacks against his opponents mostly. He's a hero, not a villain.
You also need superman level strength to do that as a sucker punch from Kal damaged that.
If he tried to fight Hulk h2h then yes, same thing would have happened. Hulk however is not smart enough to get around the illusions.
Yes, Loki doesn't always fight like that, but he has shown quite capable of using illusions during his fights, especially seen in Thor 2. Just because he wasn't quite as good at using them before doesn't mean that you can pick and choose his lowest showings as his usual fighting style. Because if that's your reasoning, I can easily do the same and keep pointing out the Superman got knocked out by an oil rig.
Far as I know, we use the character's latest feats as this will show them at their current capacity... that means Loki as he was seen in Thor 2.
What else would he do? Shoot hulk with his non-existent magic? Throw knives? Loki fought h2h with everyone, be it Thor, Hulk, Captain America, Frost Giants, Thor while having Gungnir and that's it. There is nothing else to draw from.
I haven't seen Thor 2 but if its as useful as luring a frost giant to a pit or throwing Thor into a glass cage, forget about it. Its nothing useful into a fight with someone as fast as Faora or Zod. They could just zip through every illusion untill they smack the real loki. And then what? And even that showing is beyond Thor and Loki unless they blew up something as big as that Oil Rig. It was easily big enough that a helicopter looked small compared to it.
What did Loki do in Thor 2 anyway that's so impressive?
Yeah, full powered Zod actually looked stronger than Superman when he straight up caught a punch from him and his trick with superman's cape and throwing him away would KTFO Thor or Loki.
You should watch Thor 2 first then before making your conclusions. Like I said, Loki's illusions won't be enough to grant them majority of the wins, but it should still get them a few wins. At the very least, it should make it a good fight. Loki's illusions coupled with Thor's raw power is not an easy combination to beat.
You're also forgetting Loki's mind manipulation powers and the fact that he can mass produce illusions like he did in the first Thor movie. He's capable of imitating another person's likeness... so if he copies Zod then makes Thor look like Faora, then makes a dozen more illusions of Zod and Faora... well, that should make things interesting.
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Why don't you tell me what did Loki do in that movie which involved his illusions? Why should they? At most it would be an annoyance but both Zod and Faora are fast enough to zip through all of Loki's illusions. Not to mention Zod has X-ray vision and he would look through illusions.
The same mind bending powers which failed on Tony because of his arc reactor? LOL.
Before or After either Zod and Faora beat the shit out of him at super-speed since Loki went h2h against everyone.
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