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Can the Master Sword cut through Sauron's ring ?
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The Scenario
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It can reflect a bolt but can't disable someone's magic unless it pierces them.

Is your youtube having issues or can you actually not see the Master Sword dispelling the magic on Link from a distance? Why is your luck with technology so bad?

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It can and has canonically in the executioners scene. The move is what is exceptional not the sword. That's painfully obvious.

The move can only be done with the sword, though. Do you really think the Jump Strike's magical shockwave is just the move? The Master Sword can't be block by non magical enemies in game, sorry your copy was faulty.

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Both are physical swords. Proves both swords are greater than Dorfs soft skin.

Do you know what the word 'context' means? I'm not entirely sure you do.

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Ms can't break the ring. Only the fanboys would claim otherwise. This isn't the basilisk fang, sport.

Well, yeah, there's no way the Basilisk Fang and its venom can break the Ring, that's obvious to everyone.

It the Master Sword and its magical properties that will destroy the Ring.

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Is your youtube having issues or can you actually not see the Master Sword dispelling the magic on Link from a distance? Why is your luck with technology so bad?

The move can only be done with the sword, though. Do you really think the Jump Strike's magical shockwave is just the move? The Master Sword can't be block by non magical enemies in game, sorry your copy was faulty.

Do you know what the word 'context' means? I'm not entirely sure you do.

Well, yeah, there's no way the Basilisk Fang and its venom can break the Ring, that's obvious to everyone.

It the Master Sword and its magical properties that will destroy the Ring.

The ms can't disable Zant's magic nor Dorfs in combat. The points always escape you.

The master sword can be blocked but only this attack cannot be attacked. The attack is special not the sword here, sport.

Both swords cut him but can't destroy each other.

Conclusion both are stronger than Dorfs skin. Undeniable. Destroys your claim that the executioners sword can't cut into him again.

Basilisk fang has feats of destroying durable magical artifacts. Master sword does not. Can't even break the executioners sword.

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That's the one(s) Scene, thanks.

I don't see why that is not enough. I mean, the movie verse is so watered down that the greatest potent magic in the trilogy is shrugable. The Ring resisting a strong axe blow or Gandalf's magic doesn't mean much when this blade is far more powerful, physically and magically. With that anti-evil kick to boot.

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Ms can't break the ring. Only the fanboys would claim otherwise. This isn't the basilisk fang, sport.

And even a basilisk can't wouldn't do the job here. The ring is not a Horcrux, and has only one way to be destroyed. The master sword is not one of them.

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Hold up, missed that.. The Master Sword will fail but something as simple as big snake venom will do the trick? Yeesh....

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And even a basilisk can't wouldn't do the job here. The ring is not a Horcrux, and has only one way to be destroyed. The master sword is not one of them.

Baslisk fang has greater feats of destruction than the ring has resistance feats. Obvious answer is obvious.

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Hold up, missed that.. The Master Sword will fail but something as simple as big snake venom will do the trick? Yeesh....

Basilisk fang has feats of destroying magical durable artifacts whereas the Ms does not.

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Jan 31st, 2014 12:24 AM

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Ya huh, durable...

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Ya huh, durable...

It was a plot point in Harry Potter films how hard it was to destroy these Horcruxes.

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And what exactly did they try?

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And what exactly did they try?

All the magic they could muster and it didn't do anything. They needed the sword of Gryffindor or a basilisk fang in order to do so.

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Yeah, what magic? And who? Btw how long did we know about them? Wondering if guys like Albus even got the chance to tinker. But yeah, first two.

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Yeah, what magic? And who? Btw how long did we know about them? Wondering if guys like Albus even got the chance to tinker. But yeah, first two.

Harry, Ron, and Hermione.

This takes place in Deathly Hallows part one.

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Hold up, missed that.. The Master Sword will fail but something as simple as big snake venom will do the trick? Yeesh....

No, the big snake venom still isn't strong enough to destroy Sauron's ring. It can only be destroyed by the fires of Mount Doom, nothing else will do anything to The Ring.

Jan 31st, 2014 12:37 AM

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No, the big snake venom still isn't strong enough to destroy Sauron's ring. It can only be destroyed by the fires of Mount Doom, nothing else will do anything to The Ring.

That logic only applies in that fictional universe not all others. Those are unknown variables and based off the evidence the basilisk fang does indeed so since it eclipses the dwarf axe.

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Yeah, what magic? And who? Btw how long did we know about them? Wondering if guys like Albus even got the chance to tinker. But yeah, first two.

Albums did tinker with a Horcrux (one of Tom Riddle's rings), he even wound up using the sword of Gryffindor, and wound up with a half-dead hand as a result.

Jan 31st, 2014 12:40 AM

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Not potent wizards then.

All that it takes to destroy one is that it mist be destroyed both physically and magically (something AK, the fang and sword have in common), with the only other defence being whatever enchantment is protecting it.

Basically if your attack can overcome or bypass the enchantment, and be of high physical and magical strength, the horcrux sill be destroyed.

Remember that even Fiendfyre could destroy one by follow thd above.

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That just means it is better suited against the Triforce. The point is when the ms clashed with the executioners sword nothing broke. It doesn't break swords let alone magical artifacts. The ms can cut through Dorfs skin but not break the executioners sword.

The executioner sword also would destroy the Ring, which has only resisted a weak non-magical axe.

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No, the big snake venom still isn't strong enough to destroy Sauron's ring. It can only be destroyed by the fires of Mount Doom, nothing else will do anything to The Ring.

This is known as no-limit fallacy, it's not how things work, heh. Fi is far above the movieverse Ring.

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The executioner sword also would destroy the Ring, which has only resisted a weak non-magical axe.

No, it cannot. The sword never destroyed any artifacts. No reason to think it would. You need evidence.

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