Why is Nam faster and stronger? He did nothing to prove that. Nothing. Superman fts doesn't pass to him. Based off fts, either Thor or Hulk would crush him.
He proved to take on Superman without having half the abilities that Clark had. Which feats did Thor or Hulk crush anyone on Namek level? Namek was tossin trains and smashing Jets with ease. Thor was crushed by Kurse, Hulk went full ape on Loki and didn't do much more then stun him and knock the wind out of him. What feats are you placing above the Kryps? Did you even watch MoS man?
There's a limit to how high or far a kryptonian can jump. Grab him easily? Stop making things up.
You're right though, Thor doesn't normally just stay up in the air and spam lightning (he only did that once) but same can be said about Nam-ek, he doesn't exactly speed blitz when he fights. His speed feats in the movie are limited to him charging/tackling an opponent, and that's it.
So what is it going to be: Are we including PIS/CIS and only using the fighting moves we've seen the combatants use in the movies? Or are we removing CIS/PIS and assume that the combatants are fighting smart and to the best of their abilities?
You can't gimp Thor by including his PIS/CIS while at the same time removing those from Nam-ek.
He didn't take on Superman solo dumbass. He tag-teamed Superman with Faora's help... and still got themselves beat by the farmboy who's never been in a fight all his life.
Hulk not being able to KO Loki isn't an indication of weakness from Hulk but rather a show of durability from Loki.
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Really close fight imo, but I think team 1 wins, because for some reason I think Ronan >Thor
Hulk - Nam-Ek is close but with thor gone Ronan tips the balance in favor of T1
I didn't remove them from Thor. Thor neither has the strength or stopping power to put down Namek as he is no were near Kals strength level who could not put down Namek. Namek never lost to Kal. You think some lightning is gonna hurt Namek when hear vision didn't? Namek is easily stronger and more durable then Kurse and will pound Thor into the dirt easier then he did to MoS.
Anyone who can throw MoS Superman like a ragdoll and tank a full force suckerpunch direct to the face is gonna be superior to Hulk and Thor (this one is just a piece of shit in movies, was basically curbstomped by a slower version of Namek in thor 2).
But on topic Namek and Ronan tag team crush Hulk and TINO.
The movie Thor fanwanking is pretty tiresome, he is by far the most underwelwing high tier brick in movies, fanboys always plays the ''holding back card'' even shitting on clearly stronger characters like Abomination and Hulk.
The Abomb vs Loki thread is just embarrasing to read, thor fans make everything to make a punchingbag buttmonkey like Loki look good, despite the fact that abomb would brutalize him even worse than Hulk.
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Lol...so him taking out a Jet means he is above Hulk? He didn't solo Superman...He had help and he still couldn't defeat him. Lol...so him throwing a piece of a train makes him stronger than Hulk?
What makes Kurse weaker than Nam? Nam best ft is throwing a train and that pales in comparison to what Thor and Hulk has done. Him teaming with someone to take on Superman and being defeated isn't a great ft.
Loki was out when Hulk did that...on the ground in pain and if anything, Loki not being turned to paste should tell you how durable he is. What has Namek done to put him above Hulk and Thor? Nothing imo. It seems like you are basing this off of him getting beat up, even with help.
The fts that I am placing is Hulk withstanding Thor uppercut with Mjlonir whereas Nam was taken out by being punched into a building. Thor withstanding Kurse blows also proves that he is above Nam physically.
Hulk punching power is better than anything Nam has done. Thor ground and pound is better than anything Nam has done. The only thing you really have is him throwing a train and him getting beat up by Superman, with help.
Namek was dominating superman by himself while faora was killing soliders left and right, that feat alone puts him above Thor and Hulk imo
Just compare the fights buddy, Hulk vs Thor was embarrasing slow is not even close to Namek/Superman, hell im not even conting the fact that Namek was pretty much unaffected after the fight.
Edit: Lol Loki durable, any kryptonian would have break the whole floor smashing loki in it, if anything it just prove how inferior are the asgardians compared to kryptonians, Namek tanked a full force punch to the face from Superman so hard that leave a shockwave and was fine after that, not to mention the feat of no selling the whole train explosion compared to the bullet fearing thor lol.
This discussion is silly, Superman is far superior to Thor and Hulk, anyone who can give him a hard time is gonna wreck the two avengers.
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Yes, Namek is stronger and more durable than Thor or Hulk. I never contested that and I think it should be obvious to anyone.
I do however think that Thor and Hulk are more durable than Nam-ek's helmet. Heck, Superman face-smashing Faora was enough to damage her mask. Whereas I think Thor and Hulk can tank a quite few hits from Nam-ek, I don't see his mask tanking that many hits from Mjolnir or Hulk's fists.
I also think that Thor's lightning is more powerful than Clark's heat vision. Why? Because we've seen it destroy a lot more than Clark's heat vision.
I also can't see how Nam-ek deals with Thor just flying out of range and using his more exotic powers on Nam-ek. Obviously, if Thor and Hulk went melee with Nam-ek they'd be at the disadvantage. Thor needs to fight smart in this fight.
Now if it was Zod or Superman in this fight, without the mask-weakness and with flight, then the kryptonian team wins.
Yes, you are to believe that Zod and Faora's flimsy demonstrably easily broken see-through shit is inferior to Nam-Ek's solid metal helmet. Especially considering Faora's actual armored helmet can retract and was retracted when it was broken.
Thor's smart thinking with a tank like Namek will end quickly as Namek gets ahold of him and snaps his neck.
Thors exotic powers. Like the tornado designed to lift a slow moving metal automaton? Like Namek can't get out of that situation by I dunno jumping away or running? Or like he would even half to, prolly just I dunno jump up and punch the shit out of him while hes trying to form it?
More exotic powers like using a building to channel his power for a huge AOE to hit slow moving giant beats in a tunnel with only one way to get out. How does that apply here? He sure was not flying while doing that. Which exotic powers are you referring to while he was flying because one of them would have zero effect and the other he used a building to amp his power.
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