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What DCNU Flash best speed ft?


Becoming intangible and thus, untaggable.


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Lol...the proof is on you. How would he contain the blast along with the impact throwing him off at the same time. Wouldn't he have crashed landed on Earth if the speed wasn't his. Hell, why did it even lead him to earth? The place that he was trying to go to if it wasn't his flight under his own power. Remember, he was chasing the Skrulls and their trail lead him right to earth.


How is the proof on me? You're the one asserting it did what it did.....


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How is the proof on me? You're the one asserting it did what it did.....


You brought it up as evidence when nothing was said about the blast giving him any type of a speed boost.

But let's play your game.

Here Glads is hit by said attack.

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Johnny walks in, Reed talks, complete sentences. Gladiator contains said blast, then we are acknowledged that a shrapnel (Gladiator) is heading to earth.

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Stop making up stuff. How long would it take for the blast to register? The blast would've knocked him towards Earth from the onset. He wouldn't have had time to contain said attack. He wouldn't have been able to control his flight path to earth...etc.

How fast would you have to be to go intangible? Can someone with light speed reflexes tag a being who's intangible and provide proof.


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That's nothing compared to superman crossing the whole universe in two months. Yet he is slower than flash.


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superman could tag him though?


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That's nothing compared to superman crossing the whole universe in two months. Yet he is slower than flash.


DCNU Superman crossed the universe?


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Any proof Flash can stay intangible either for the duration or consistently repeatedly go intangible? Just wondering


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superman could tag him though?

That's before flash had mastered speed force.
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DCNU Superman crossed the universe?
Yes.


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Superman literally crossed the universe in two months at a weakened state, he was still slower than flash.

www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57793



If flash doesn't wants to be touched, nobody can touch him.

Pak confirmed it.


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moving at or beyond c doesn't mean you can achieve intangibility. intangibility requires a form of molecular control, not the macro application of speed that moving ftl requires. in effect, to touch him, someone would need to vibrate at the same rate in order to interact with him. have any of the marvel guys ever shown the ability to vibrate intangible? hasn't nu flash also shown the ability to vibrate into things and cause them to explode? or was that just prenu flash?


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Yes, he has done that too.


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moving at or beyond c doesn't mean you can achieve intangibility. intangibility requires a form of molecular control, not the macro application of speed that moving ftl requires. in effect, to touch him, someone would need to vibrate at the same rate in order to interact with him. have any of the marvel guys ever shown the ability to vibrate intangible? hasn't nu flash also shown the ability to vibrate into things and cause them to explode? or was that just prenu flash?


Or someone could punch him in the face before he goes intangible. Reason why I'm asking for his best speed fts.

But yes, he has gone intangible before.


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Superman crossing the universe is still somehow slower than Gladiator. At least according to Gladiator fanatics and CBR tards.

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Was it said in the comic that he was across the Universe? I don't think a lot of people take Paks opinion as 100% gold unless we are nitpicking what to accept and decline from Pak?


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You brought it up as evidence when nothing was said about the blast giving him any type of a speed boost.

But let's play your game.

Here Glads is hit by said attack.

Johnny walks in, Reed talks, complete sentences. Gladiator contains said blast, then we are acknowledged that a shrapnel (Gladiator) is heading to earth.

Stop making up stuff. How long would it take for the blast to register? The blast would've knocked him towards Earth from the onset. He wouldn't have had time to contain said attack. He wouldn't have been able to control his flight path to earth...etc.

How fast would you have to be to go intangible? Can someone with light speed reflexes tag a being who's intangible and provide proof.


I'm...not making stuff up. You yourself acknowledge it was shrapnel.

If a bomb explodes, and a piece of debris slices through me....do we say that the debris hit me under its own steam? Course not. It was thrown by the explosion.

How much did the explosion help? I do not know. And I cannot work out. Crucially, neither can you. There is nothing in those scans to say how much he was boosted by.

But lol at you saying Gladiator would be unable to control his flight path if he was thrown to Earth by the explosion - and in the same breath, claim he FLEW to Earth under his own power. Surely if he lacks the reflexes to control his flight path, he would lack the reflexes to control his flight here?


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Any proof Flash can stay intangible either for the duration or consistently repeatedly go intangible? Just wondering


Well, he only needs to break the 3 second tag rule.

So every time he gets tagged (if he gets tagged), he just needs to go intangible, and the count will have to be restarted.

For 10 minutes.

Whilst sick, he was running around the world for TWO days straight.


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I'm...not making stuff up. You yourself acknowledge it was shrapnel.

If a bomb explodes, and a piece of debris slices through me....do we say that the debris hit me under its own steam? Course not. It was thrown by the explosion.

How much did the explosion help? I do not know. And I cannot work out. Crucially, neither can you. There is nothing in those scans to say how much he was boosted by.

But lol at you saying Gladiator would be unable to control his flight path if he was thrown to Earth by the explosion - and in the same breath, claim he FLEW to Earth under his own power. Surely if he lacks the reflexes to control his flight path, he would lack the reflexes to control his flight here?


Reed THOUGHT it was a shrapnel until he seen different. If the blast would of thrown Gladiator, he wouldn't have landed smoothly on Earth AND he would've shot off as soon as the blast hit him. Instead, he was hit by the blast, time passed because he contained it, then he flew off to Earth. You have nothing backing your claims. N.O.T.H.I.N.G.

As stated before, Gladiator speed ft of 100 times the speed of light might be a Lil too much for Flash unless proof is shown.


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Reed THOUGHT it was a shrapnel until he seen different. If the blast would of thrown Gladiator, he wouldn't have landed smoothly on Earth AND he would've shot off as soon as the blast hit him. Instead, he was hit by the blast, time passed because he contained it, then he flew off to Earth. You have nothing backing your claims. N.O.T.H.I.N.G.

As stated before, Gladiator speed ft of 100 times the speed of light might be a Lil too much for Flash unless proof is shown.


I'm not claiming anything. It is YOU who is claiming it did not add anything to his speed. All I asked was proof that he flew to Earth under his own speed. And I am still waiting.


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Let me break it down for you:

Me: Flash wins this. He can travel 60 billion trillion times the speed of light.
Carver: Prove it.
Me: *posts a scan*
Carver: No, that shows something else.
Me: YOU post a scan showing that he's NOT travelling at 60 billion trillion times the speed of light.

THAT is what you're arguing, lol. I am NOT claiming anything, you're the one claiming, and now you haven't proved it. THEN, you say I have N.O.T.H.I.N.G. Well, no, because I wasn't the one who made the claim.


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Let me break it down for you:

Me: Flash wins this. He can travel 60 billion trillion times the speed of light.
Carver: Prove it.
Me: *posts a scan*
Carver: No, that shows something else.
Me: YOU post a scan showing that he's NOT travelling at 60 billion trillion times the speed of light.

THAT is what you're arguing, lol. I am NOT claiming anything, you're the one claiming, and now you haven't proved it. THEN, you say I have N.O.T.H.I.N.G. Well, no, because I wasn't the one who made the claim.


As stated on panel minus any assumptions, Gladiator traveled 100 times the speed of light. What's Flash best speed ft?


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