Ok, let's begin. I think they had enough of their power to show them being in the same tier I am claiming they are at. Just moments later, Flash was damaging Lex armor that was specifically designed to take on Superman.
That was page 4 of the comic, the page before this is Wonder Woman tossing them easily. Also, that isn't even the most impressive part. Tossing Amazo was the eye catching part. Same issue, pages after its explicitly stated that Amazo copied everyone's powers he's seen...
There's no denying that he was at full power and this also tells us how strong he was. It was never mentioned that they were not at full power either, the only thing that was said was 'the virus were not as useful with the abilities as the hero's were'. That's not what I am arguing. What I am saying is, they still retained their durability and strength, not the skills in using said abilities and nothing contradicts this statement either.
So even after Wonder Woman beats him you lowball him in subsequent fights? How does that work? It's alright to lowball him as long as it doesn't reflect back on Wonder Woman?
Anyway, Mongul didn't really take it to Superman. Superman seemed like he was toying with him really. He kept knocking Mongul everywhere.
lol at the Darkseid power comparison. He said his grip was like Darkseid's. My grip is probably like most bodybuilders but I sure as **** aren't as strong as them. Even if it was a power comparison, you really want to put stock in that when Wonder Woman beat him? We saw how badly Darkseid was above her. We saw you lowball him. There's really no comparison.
Also, Non previously got KO'ed by Wonder Woman by being slammed on his face. He must have been... Superman level according to you?
She wasn't near peak because she got blindsided? Let's put this in perspective right now. You're arguing that people that were completely depowered pages earlier are at their full strength but Wonder Woman isn't near peak because she got blindsided?
So Wonder Woman is just randomly depowered because she got hit by Superman's weakness, but people who were COMPLETELY depowered a few pages earlier and their powers were RETURNING were at full strength and durability?
How ****ing conflicting.
Anyway, back to your point. How do you even know Gog was powerful? His showing against Superman was one of the most pitiful showings against Superman in decades. Any Superman. Superman was holding wires together while letting him unload on him and he HV and dropkicked him to end the fight.
The only reason you're saying he's powerful is because he was beating up Wonder Woman who you think was depleted in strength. Among other things, but how in the hell is this combat showing better than Beta Ray Bill's?
Amazo grew in power? Where was that stated? He went to sleep after Batman hit him and got up at the same time as the other Leaguers. If anything he would have been groggy from just waking up. He didn't grow in power, he either stayed the same, or he got a little weaker. And judging from you arguing that Wonder Woman got weaker from merely being stunned from Gog, then it seems you should also be arguing that Amazo was weakened? No?
You can't read. I didn't say they were powerless while they were randomly running at WW, I said they were powerless pages earlier, and their powers are returning. IE, they are weaker. Though I've went through this and you still don't understand what that means, so I'll save it for your latest post.
No they were not amped. But before I state why even though I have already... you think that not only was Amazo amped from having all the League's powers, but you also think that Shazam, Aquaman, and Cyborg were amped... and Wonder Woman overpowered them all?
Jesus.
Which means they were completely depowered before they woke up. Which means their powers were returning from a dead state. Which means that not only were they not at full power, but it's doubtful they were anywhere near full power.
Also, I for the life of me can't figure out where it says Amazo had the power of the League. All he did was replicate Superman's powers, and his idea of Superman's flight was wings. And while you're at it, show me where it says his powers stacked. Because right now it just seems like he had Superman's strength range and not the whole League stacking strength on each other. He was never shown to replicate the League's powers before Wonder Woman went up against him just Superman. The only hint of him having the League's power happens AFTER Wonder Woman does her thing. He saw no power usage from the League before hand. What was he going to copy, Shazam's lightning eyes?
And if his strength is just derived from Superman, then you also argued I believe that Wonder Woman getting rocked kept her from peak strength? Amazo went into a mini coma from Batman KO'ing him. So how much weaker would he have been according to you?
So according to your logic that you tried to use against me... and real logic:
Amazo was a Superman level being who had his strength dwindled from being super KO'ed, the League was depowered, and Batman was pretty strong.
Which is still pretty impressive, but it's a far cry from Amazo having the entire League's powers stacked on top of each other, and the League being at full strength. Which is what you're trying to push on me like the children you push on.
However, what was happening is she only really pushed against Amazo and knocked him off balance. The other guys weren't even pushing but were grabbing towards Wonder Woman. And even if they were, well, here's a real life example explaining it:
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So either way it happened, all Wonder Woman was doing was pushing against Amazo. And all she did was pushing really hard upwards knocking him off balance and knocking over anyone in the vicinity. And they were really really close.
How does Flash damaging Lex's suit prove anything about their power? I don't get that.
That didn't tell us how strong he is at all, since not only did that happen after Wonder Woman pushed him, but it was never stated that he stacked their strength on top of each other. And considering you can't prove that by feats either, what are you left with?
Well, I know you're left with the thinking that Wonder Woman can overpower a being with the League's powers stacked together and an amped League, but I'm wondering about an average human.
Also, the point of "returning" completely flew over your head. They can't be at the optimal strength level if their powers are returning. Like, ****. If your strength is returning than you are not at full power. Simply put.
If you're beating cancer, then you haven't beat cancer. If you're tossing your buddy Jayshawn's salad, then you haven't tossed his salad.
Let's go DBZ here.
Goku is powering up to SS3. Is he at full power? No, of course not. You'd be a real piece of crap to think otherwise. If Goku powered up to SS3 then one could argue it.
Let's do a scenario here since you still won't understand:
Let's say one day you ask your buddy - oh let's call him DeAndre - to poop on your chest so you can be in ecstasy. Let's say he just starts laying a greasy log down on your chest. Laying being the key word, since he is right now pooping on your chest. But let's say you haven't had the pleasure of the fecal matter plopping down on you, so you aren't quite satisfied with the result. Now even you wouldn't say he has finished right? I mean, the feces hasn't even hit your chest yet.
And that's what was happening with the League's strength right then. They were pooping on your chest. It was an unfinished product.
What you're looking for is returned or pooped. What you're looking for is DeAndre's leftovers staining your chest as it coils up nicely a couple feet from your face. Then I don't know what you do afterwards, but I'm guessing you guys rub it in with your chests or whatnot. But I'm not talking about that.
Imagine the feeling you get when seeing the poop coming out to soil your skin. It's good, but you know it will feel a hell of a lot better when it has been fully pooped out and the deed is done.
The League was that feeling. They haven't yet finished their poop on your chest.
You are not at full power if your strength is returning. You are not at full power if your powering up. Not that it matters since they didn't even appear to be pushing, nor would it really have mattered if they did. They were backdrop waiting to be thrown askew.
What you're arguing has more holes in it than your posters of Bieber.
After reading your second post (minus the poop of course), overall, I agree with you. I just disagree with your comments about Amazo since he was using a combination of powers during his showings. He had the league powers. Here it's stated that the cold was keeping his POWERS in check. His only power was mimicking and per the statement in this scan...
They are talking about 'more than one'...not a single ability. So, he had the league powers. Nothing goes against this. The rest of your argument is understandable though.
And what you're implying is his power was mimicking strength multiple times. Which is what I'm saying was never said or shown. And if it was, his feats were pure crap for the short time he would have had this.
And the League wasn't using any power until after that break up for him to mimic either.
But I'm going to shut my computer off now since it's burning my chest. If only it had the cooling effect of feces right Carv?
Never said his strength stacked but nothing was said about it not being stacked either. He was overpowering Superman at one point. Hell, he was doing it in the scan you posted.
Depends. If you see planet destroying as something similar, then hey, but in my opinion, no, he can't. I also don't think he can mimic her other showings either. DC has been up playing her God of War status.
It didn't even say he copied super strength to my recollection. Why the shit would we assume his strength just stacked on each other?
But it never stated Superman wasn't overpowering him either.
It never said Amazo wasn't linked to the infection.
It never said the infected was giving him power, but it also never said it wasn't.
Also I'm tired of this. But I never said I was tired of that.
One feat isn't enough to be more impressive than Beta, but one feat was never stated to not be enough either.
How deep. But I never said you were shallow either.
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