Then who is the Supreme that first appeared, and was running around like a mad man? Also, do you know if Supreme was depowered in his fight with Gladiator? Which happened first? That one question would decide who actually wins this.
'Mean' Supreme is just how Erik Larsen(the writer of the series) categorized the Liefeld-era/pre-Moore version of Supreme--the villain archetype Supreme, essentially. That is who the Supreme Family locked away. That is the version who was stated to be the most powerful of them all. That is the version who was shown to be demonstrably superior to the entire Supreme Family. That is the most recent depiction of the character. Etc. Etc.
Furthermore, Supreme's most recent series(which showcased the aforementioned) ran between 2012-2013... So I'm actually talking about very up to date facts here.
As for Supreme's fight with Gladiator: to my knowledge it's non-canon... And non-canon crossovers aren't an admissible source of evidence here, regardless of how they went. /shrug
Okay, so the very first version of Supreme is mean Supreme. Got it, unless of course I did not get it. However, I'm going to take the universe lifting feat with a grain of salt, because mean Supreme never lived up to that kind of hype. Speaking of hype neither has Hyperion. All that we have left are how well these guys do while in combat. You seem to claim that his battle against Omni Man was a low showing for Supreme. Bad way to start out Galan. Why? Because you seem to want to omit what happened in combat, and replace it with something that Supreme didn't even do. Not to mention that it was a lifting feat. Omni Man went on to double KO Supreme. It wasn't a low showing. Now Invincible happens to be slightly more powerful than Omni Man. What does this say about Supreme (current Supreme)? He's not winning this. Blue Marvel is.
Why would Omni Man stalemating Supreme means Blue Marvel wins anyway? Did they fight and somehow I missed it? Why wouldn't Nolan beat Marvel based on that?
I think it mainly boils down to people not wanting to accept characters from the Invincible-universe(Viltrumites, primarily) as the powerhouses they truly are, and instead use them as a means to reverse-lowball.
"Well, Mean Supreme has to be weaksauce if Omni-Man stalemated him... Dats da onley logykal explanashun!!1!!!!1!111!!"
Forget the fact that Larsen obviously had a throbbing hard-on for Mean Supreme, and consistently wrote him at a very high level in that series. Nolan stalemating him(under Larsen's pen, no less) MUST mean he is a feeb that any Superman-analogue from Marvel would own... That definitely makes the most sense... Right..?
Just because I'm curious, Omni-Man vs PC Superman, what happens?
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