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Originally posted by FrothByte
So Ozy has access to outside tech and Vandal has access to... what?


His money? I'm sure he's got a lot saved up. But aside from resources and the Staff of Horus, I don't think TI gave him anything. Like I said, Ozy got a looooot of padding.

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Savage spends the week hiding (he's managed to stay relatively hidden for thousands of years) and then just pitches up in the middle of the city on the day and flattens it with his staff. stick out tongue

They needed Hawkgirl to have some magical past life flashback in order to figure out how to properly counter the staff, which simply having Manhattan's tech won't do.


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So Ozy has access to outside tech and Vandal has access to... what?
They really didn't do a good job of explaining his resources did they? He'd have to have something


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His money? I'm sure he's got a lot saved up. But aside from resources and the Staff of Horus, I don't think TI gave him anything. Like I said, Ozy got a looooot of padding.


Look how butt hurt you are. Vandal got his staff so isn't that enough padding for Vandal. Seriously you are like a whiny kid. These are both DC Char, so it's not like I favor one more then the other, quit your constant complaining. I have favored no one in the fight.

In fact if Ozy does not have access to Manhetten tech then it would be a stomp for for Vandal. So it a least makes for good prep fight and I said a few times DM was a non combaten.


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Savage spends the week hiding (he's managed to stay relatively hidden for thousands of years) and then just pitches up in the middle of the city on the day and flattens it with his staff. stick out tongue

They needed Hawkgirl to have some magical past life flashback in order to figure out how to properly counter the staff, which simply having Manhattan's tech won't do.


No, just no VD. Ozy could certainly figure it out all on his own. He's THAT good with prep.

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No, just no VD. Ozy could certainly figure it out all on his own. He's THAT good with prep.


What a compelling argument.


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Clearly there are some people who think Ozy can pull this off, but I am not one of them. I personally don't feel that him spending a few years and a few billion dollars to trick an unsuspecting Manhattan and retired Watchmen crew is enough evidence to say he can figure out a way to counter Savage and his staff, considering it took some of the smartest people in the Flash/Arrowverse, outside assistance, time travel, a magical vision from Hawkgirl's first life, and then a combined effort from Oliver, Barry, Diggle, Thea, Laurel and both the Hawk people, after all the prep, to stop him from destroying Central City. And remember, Savage's interest wasn't even in destroying the city. Just killing the Hawk people. If he had wanted to destroy it from the beginning he never even would have needed to pitch up to the meeting.

If other people disagree, that's cool. They simply feel differently than I do. This type of thread is pretty much up to personal opinion and speculation, so unlikely to have any conclusive outcome in anyways.


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What a compelling argument.


The funny part is, your proposition was even worse. Yeah, he'll just wait a week and blow up the city... great plan!!!

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How would Ozy find him though? It's actually a valid plan. He could just go back and forth to hotels and motels and stuff, use nothing but cash so he can't be traced. And when the day comes, just smack the staff down in his bedroom. Because it's Ozy's job to stop Vandal from blowing up the city, not the other way around, so Ozy has to do more work.

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Yeah, he doesn't need to be anywhere near Ozy to blow up the city, nor does he require any prep to do it.


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LMAO, Now Ozy with all his money and resources, never mind being a supreme prep master can't find Vandal in the city.... Please. If that is the plan, it's a failed one.

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How would Ozy find him though? It's actually a valid plan. He could just go back and forth to hotels and motels and stuff, use nothing but cash so he can't be traced. And when the day comes, just smack the staff down in his bedroom. Because it's Ozy's job to stop Vandal from blowing up the city, not the other way around, so Ozy has to do more work.


Savage is immortal so he doesn't even need to risk motels and things if really necessary. He has thousands of years of experience gathered from seemingly all over the world, so I am sure he could survive on the absolute fringes, with the bare minimum, if he needed to. He also has knowledge on Ozy here, so knows he is up against someone highly intelligent and with a lot of money to throw around. And the OP says he is coming to destroy NY, but not that he has to be there during the week of prep.


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