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chingchangwalla
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Yoda and Dooku and somewhat on the same level. Obi and Sheev are too? Lol

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Dooku barely fended off a holding back Yoda. DE Sidious is on a different league than a holding back Yoda :/

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It's besides the point

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Yoda and Dooku and somewhat on the same level. Obi and Sheev are too? Lol

That's what I said? Lol

You asked how Kenobi would even See Sheev. I suggested perhaps the same way Dooku saw Yoda.

Also you're acting as if Kenobi is facing Sheev alone here.

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Dooku barely fended off a holding back Yoda. DE Sidious is on a different league than a holding back Yoda :/

But Dooku could see Yoda right? And Dooku was facing Yoda Alone right?

Jeez.

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I didn't mean it to be taken literally chief. Of course Kenobs will see Sheev... It means he doesn't stand a chance.

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^ What about After Mace has fully sunk into Vapaad. Could Kenobi be of assist then?

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DT, who do you think wins this?

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But Dooku could see Yoda right? And Dooku was facing Yoda Alone right?

Jeez.

But it's an incomparable example, which is my point.

He did see Yoda, but Kenobi would see Sidious, just not even react to the first blow.

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But it's an incomparable example, which is my point.

He did see Yoda, but Kenobi would see Sidious, just not even react to the first blow.

Well Fisto reacted to 2/3 blows right? And he's not a Soresu Master.

Plus again, once Mace is fully submerged in Vapaad, surely Kenobi can only help right? Given Sidious will be fully occupied with Mace as is.

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DT, who do you think wins this?

Depends if Vapaad still makes Mace Sidious's equal, even with this incarnation of Sidious..

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Well Fisto reacted to 2/3 blows right? And he's not a Soresu Master.

Plus again, once Mace is fully submerged in Vapaad, surely Kenobi can only help right? Given Sidious will be fully occupied with Mace as is.

After Palpy killed two of his compadres. I assume if Fisto was in the same position as, say, Kolar he'd die as quickly. And Fisto just strikes me as faster than Obi, even if he isn't as skilled.

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After Palpy killed two of his compadres. I assume if Fisto was in the same position as, say, Kolar he'd die as quickly.

Well Kenobi could stand behind Mace. Wait for Mace to be fully into Vapaad before he joins in.

Besides Kenobi is better than any of those 3 and he's specifically a defensive combatant.

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And Fisto just strikes me as faster than Obi, even if he isn't as skilled.

Well I don't know what "strikes you" but I do know Kenobi's defence velocity was so fast that Dooku didn't even bother striking.

Doubt Fisto is that fast.

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The problem is: Mace couldn't react in time to save either Agen or Saesee and he's facing a more serious, more powerful and faster Palpatine here.

Being fair, this was while Dooku was tired, had lost his composure and underestimated Obi. There were circumstances against him in that, tbh.

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The problem is: Mace couldn't react in time to save either Agen or Saesee and he's facing a more serious, more powerful and faster Palpatine here.

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More serious? So Sheev was half-assing it against the B-Team?

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Yeah well I guess if this Palpatine is more powerful, Mace's chances decrease given he was stalemating a less powerful version. Unless Vapaad can make up the difference regardless.

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