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Sable
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They were not just thicker, they were only resistant to the black arrow.

Sep 15th, 2017 07:34 PM

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They were not just thicker, they were only resistant to the black arrow.

An ice spear is more powerful than a Black Arrow.

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Smaug shrugged off a lake of molten gold> ice spear.

Sep 15th, 2017 07:59 PM

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Smaug shrugged off a lake of molten gold> ice spear.

Dragons arent affected by heat!

Drogon would have survived that too.

Ice spear isnt the samething as molten gold. They cant be compared.

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Sep 15th, 2017 08:27 PM

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Entire lake of molten gold is < Ice spear?

Be reasonable

Also did you concede that the Night King can be hurt by fire?

Sep 15th, 2017 09:49 PM

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Entire lake of molten gold is < Ice spear?

Be reasonable

Also did you concede that the Night King can be hurt by fire?

You are trying to compare something that is super Hot with something that is super Cold? Id say the one who is unreasonable here is you.

Ice Spear cant be compared to Molten Gold!

And No! NK cant die to fire.

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Sep 15th, 2017 11:05 PM

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And if he dies by fire in Season 8?

Sep 15th, 2017 11:12 PM

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Smaug.

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And if he dies by fire in Season 8?

Then you have evidence and i would agree.

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Sep 16th, 2017 12:17 AM

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Rewatching the spear throw explosion changed my mind. Night King wins.

Sep 16th, 2017 12:38 AM

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Rewatching the spear throw explosion changed my mind. Night King wins.

IK!

The thing is this. White Walkers are said to be powerful magical creatures.

Its possibe that Ice Spears or Ife swords would be like Toxic or Poisonous to Dragons.

Remember Dragons are creatures of the fire. Those Ice spears just cut like knife cuts butter.

Valyrion's just massively bleed out.

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Which is sad because I liked him.

Sep 16th, 2017 01:39 AM

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Watch the video i linked to saber and get back to me.

All evidence is agains you.

You are placing your hopes that Smaug would evade it.

He is Much Bigger than Valyrion. He is getting closer to NK.

NK stomps.

Am not gonna debate IRRATIONALITY.

What video ?

Nah, he evades it. Quicker and NK misses the only aware dragon he threw a spear at. Not very convincing. Smaug will decimate him.

Just because someone disagrees that doesn't mean they are being irrational it just means you are too narrow minded.

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hey quan good to have u back.

On the flip side of your point, smaug is 0/2 in dodging spears, and was standing right in front of bard talking shit while he was pointing the black arrow right at him, and he just charged straight ahead and tried to tank it.

Why do u think that he will even try to dodge the nk's? Especially since he had the knowledge that the black arrows can hurt him, yet he didn't even make an attempt at dodging bards.

In my opinion, smaug would over confidently try to tank the arrow and take one right in the chest. Whether or not it would Pierce him is anyones guess. Id put the odds right at 50/50 for that.

Well due to him not realizing the scale was missing. That was the only reason it killed him.

He is against an unknown opponent and NK is 0/1 in hitting dragons who are aware of him. Smaug is a lot more durable than the weaker GoT dragons so there is a good chance he's only lose a scale or so from it.

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What video ?

Nah, he evades it. Quicker and NK misses the only aware dragon he threw a spear at. Not very convincing. Smaug will decimate him.

Just because someone disagrees that doesn't mean they are being irrational it just means you are too narrow minded.

Ehhhh no. You are being irrational because all odds are against smaug and you are still supporting it.

Your point that NK would miss to an unaware dragon is stupid.

First of all as @raptor22 said Smaug hasnt dodge an arrow when engaging. Using your own "logic" (which is really unlogical) Smaug has evaded 0/2 arrows.

He would get hit when engaging NK and would die to this.

The difference between Disagreeing with someone rationally and irrationally is when the person will defend his point although all evidence and points are against him.

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Which is sad because I liked him.

Its admirable when someone recognizes that others are right!

Really admirable.

IK its hard. Ive also given my points in several occasions in this same forum. Its hard. But its why we make threads in the first place. To discuss and claim a victor out of the contestants.

If we close our minds and defend our idols blindly then why do we make this threads in the first place?

We need to be willing to surrender sooner or later. For the wealth of this forum.

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I hope i can show you what i mean when i say that the NK WONT MISS!

https://youtu.be/p5MyNFfh7Ns

Smaug vs Bard the Bowman

As seen in the video above. Smaug is HUGE!
He is probably twice the size of Valyrion (the dragon killed by NK)! That adds to the possibility of NK hitting him.

FURTHERMORE! Smaug was AWARE that Bard had the Black Arrow!!! Yet Smaug careless and approached him! Smaug Arrogance adds to the possibility of NK being able to kill him!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ6ayvGPP0g

Night King vs Dragons

Now lets see the Night King!

As you can see Viseryon was flying fast! Yet the NK sent him down!

Then we see how he missed with Drogon! Again Drogon was moving away!(running and gaining distance) And Yet! The Night King miss him by an inch!!!

Smaug is Much Bigger! He is a bigger target! He is engaging not running! And he is arrogant! Bard was humble and yet Smaug was arrogant!!!

Now look at the way the NK approached the dragons! NK was fearless and defying! Smaug's pride would boil in him to see the NK reacting like that!

The NK is very unlikely to miss one of those Olympic Javelin tosses!

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Ehhhh no. You are being irrational because all odds are against smaug and you are still supporting it.

Your point that NK would miss to an unaware dragon is stupid.

First of all as @raptor22 said Smaug hasnt dodge an arrow when engaging. Using your own "logic" (which is really unlogical) Smaug has evaded 0/2 arrows.

He would get hit when engaging NK and would die to this.

The difference between Disagreeing with someone rationally and irrationally is when the person will defend his point although all evidence and points are against him.

False, but come on now you've ignored various points about your Valyrian steel and what not in favor of your WW's before.

This spear isn't an arrow. We see the archers from the Lannisters army hit their dragons as well. The spear toss isn't the the same thing as an arrow. See how easy it is to show evidence to support my claims.

The spear isn't an arrow. False comparison. Apples to oranges. What arrows have the GoT dragons dodged ? big grin

I just cited evidence to decimate your apples to oranges comparison. Smaug wins. Face it he's just better.

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False, but come on now you've ignored various points about your Valyrian steel and what not in favor of your WW's before.

This spear isn't an arrow. We see the archers from the Lannisters army hit their dragons as well. The spear toss isn't the the same thing as an arrow. See how easy it is to show evidence to support my claims.

The spear isn't an arrow. False comparison. Apples to oranges. What arrows have the GoT dragons dodged ?

I just cited evidence to decimate your apples to oranges comparison. Smaug wins. Face it he's just better.

Seeing how NK brought down Valyrion i think I didn't need to point out that he has better AIM than Bard the Bowman!

Again Smaug loses this one easliy! Smaug is huge, he is an easy target, and he isn't the type of dragon which will evade spears or arrows.

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Seeing how NK brought down Valyrion i think I didn't need to point out that he has better AIM than Bard the Bowman!

Again Smaug loses this one easliy! Smaug is huge, he is an easy target, and he isn't the type of dragon which will evade spears or arrows.

He brought down Valyrion who wasn't aware. We saw regular bowmen hit Drogon as well.

One swift movement with his speed and the spear goes by. This isn't an arrow and as I said GoT dragons haven't evaded arrows as well. Smaug evades and dominates.

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