And yet that is Thor's fault. Thor had a priviladge life! He was a pampered child with all the benefits of being the son of Odin!
The only difficulty he ever had was recovering Mjolinr, which in first place he himself lost for his ignorance and pride!
Furthermore, Thor is the king of Asgard. Saving Asgard from Hela and Malekith is HIS DUTY, whereas in the other hand, Captain America owes Earth nothing!
Sure Cap just took a syrup, but there were 7Billion other people who could have took the syrup and yet Cap was the worthiest and most-deserving one.
Difference here is, Odinson is a priviledge hero who has duties to serve as King of Asgard, whereas Cap was a poor sick and bullied guy who earned everything himself
If that's your angle then you might want to consider that Cap is a soldier and it's his duty to serve and protect his country. In fact for his first 3 movies he was basically following orders. A prince has no obligation to fight in the front line whereas same can't be said of a soldier.
Oh please, don't exaggerate. Dr. Erskine didn't audition 7 billion people before choosing Steve for the SS program. They considered a handful of candidates and Erskine chose Steve for his attitude. Attitude alone does not make one heroic. It's definitely A factor, but not THE ONLY factor.
So basically what you're saying is that all the deaths, difficulties and violence Thor has experienced don't matter as much as Cap's simply because Thor has more money and privilege? Do you realize how ridiculously discriminatory that makes you sound? That's like saying a rich woman getting raped is not as horrible as the average woman getting raped simply because the rich woman has more money.
No, both Thor and Cap are clearly heroic, almost equally so... which is why I thought this would make a good thread. The difference between us is that I'm unbiased enough to realize that they excel in different factors which contribute to both of them being heroic.
He was a sick bullied and massively understimated guy!!!! He was rejected in his first audition!!! The only reason he participated and saved the entire world was because HE WANTED TO and not because it WAS HIS DUTY!
You clearly haven't watch Captain America, go watch and then come back here son!
He was the chosen one amongst USA's entire army! Sure isn't 7B it was just an exaggeration from my part, but it's damn a lot.
The biggest difference between a hero and a villain is attitude towards life and society. Reconsider your words!
Clearly you didn't understand what i said. Go read it again.
Odinson is Heir of Asgard. One of the Universes greatest empire and which has many enemies!
It's but his duty to expect attacks and war!
I never said they weren't heroic! Damn Tony Stark is heroic.
Cap's has had it harder! He has excelled and built a title for himself whilst Odinson has just fullfilled what is required of him!
Captain America:
- A no one whose future was to be a random American person with a 'no one cares' future.
- He was sick, small, and underestimated.
- He was rejected to participate in WW2 and bullied.
- Despite being bullied he kept working hard and manage to enter the academy (As a random soldier destined to get killed by a Nazi!)
- He was in poor condition and yet managed to win all his courses in the academy.
- He sacrificed himself into what looked like a granade to safe his pals proving his massively heroic attitude.
- Finally rewarded for his attitude earning the SSS and becoming America's idol and embassador in WW2. - He made the ultimate sacrifice by crashing Red Skull's plane into the ice saving a World who 1. Never believed in him 2. Mistreated him
Thor:
- Son of Odin, and heir of Asgard
- He was strong, powerful and damn handsome.
- He was given Mjolnir, one of the Universe's most power weapon at its time
- His pride and ego made him lose Mjolnir and his Powers
- He was casted to Earth where he had a decent lifetime and being looked over by Jane Foster and her friends
- He finally became humble and got a punch from Destroyer making him 'Worthy again'. - Went to Asgard to fulfill his duty as heir to the throne, and fix something HE STARTED! He defeated Loki....Which is expected since he is the true son of Odin, and had Mjolnir which>>>>>Odin staff!
That is more than enough to clearly see which one is the most heroic one. The simple fact that you are actually comparing them is BS
Now i could keep moving on with Thor Dark World and CA:CW. But I think i brough enough comparison to make a clear difference here.
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So you admit that you're basing your ENTIRE opinion on just the first Captain America and Thor movies. Thank you for admitting that you completely disregarded 83% of the characters' arc in forming your opinion.
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Last edited by FrothByte on May 29th, 2018 at 06:54 PM
You based your ENTIRE opinion of Cap from 1 movie out of his 6. A movie where he was new to his powers, had to undergo the most change, and made his biggest sacrifice compared to his other solo movies.
You then compared that to 1 Thor movie out of 6, picking the movie where he was most arrogant and lost the least compared to his other solo movies.
And you expect us to take your opinions seriously? lol. Fail, Josh, utter failure. This is almost as stupid as your KO definition.
BTW, he does realize that Thor sacrificed his life in order to save people from the Destroyer? that is actually just as heroic as anything Cap did in his first movie.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Last edited by Silent Master on May 29th, 2018 at 08:46 PM
Cap, by a hair's breadth (likewise, imo, the difference in the heroic-ness of many heroes). I'm giving it to Cap because, in a team situation, in addition to heroic deeds, Cap also assumes the responsibility of leadership.
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