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DarkSaint85
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Where did it say it NEEDS a mystical energy detector to measure Hercs? I dont think you understand that scene. There was a reason a MYSTICAL detector was sent. A of the beings Herc was fighting during that issue/s was mystical.


And gave off Hercs. Which it measured.


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Re-read the scan.

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Not strength. It's the maximum amount of ENERGY expended in one blow.



Yep no where does it say that one herc = hercules.

It’s does say that it’s the maximum amount of of energy expended by one of his blows.

How hard does he hit? The energy from the blow is equal to 1 herc.

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Diesldude, go away, you're terrible at this. Leave it to dark.


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Diesldude, go away, you're terrible at this. Leave it to dark.
you’re losing this argument with dark. He’s shown what “1 herc equals” while you haven’t. All this time I believed you and thought herc meant 1 Hercules. Now I know better.

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Of course you would say I'm losing. I dont take anything you say serious and HERE...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/48...Chrome.jpg.html

That's not what Dark is saying. I cant debate with you because you have a hard time of comprehending things and it irritates me. Now leave this to dark, please.


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@Dark...

Yes, it gave off Hercs since that is the measuring tool that is used to measure power. What should it gave off, Doctor Strange. Lol... it was said that Hulk is as powerful as the Celestials. Is Hulk giving off Celestial power. As the Phoenix Force. Is he giving off Phoenix Force power. His potential is measured and its stacked up to their tier. The mystical PHYSICAL creature Herc was fighting was giving off Hercs of power that per your scan, puts it above the older Hercules.


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But it's a mystic energy detecting device.

Does your microphone detects light levels? Does the light sensor on your phone detect sound?

And when your microphone detects noise, does it measure it in seconds, metres, or decibels?


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Here are the scans I am hinging my argument on. Maybe someone can explain Carv's argument to me better, because I honestly cannot understand what he's trying to argue.

These kids are helping Herc. They are using a device that was sent to them by Dr Cosimo - the original scientist who coined the Herc unit. I circled the relevant part:

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So, she, the inventor of the Herc, built and sent a mystical energy detection unit. OK.

They use it, and scan Baba Yaga's chicken leg house (no, not John Wick):
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They get a MYSTIC ENERGY reading of 1.3 Hercs, using the MYSTIC ENERGY DETECTING unit.

To put it a different way:
I, DS85, invent a sound energy detecting unit. Carv uses it, and detects that Tyson's punch has a sound energy reading of 200 plumbuses.

Is a plumbus a unit of heat energy? Mystic energy? Total energy? Or sound energy?


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Originally posted by carver9
Of course you would say I'm losing. I dont take anything you say serious and HERE...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/48...Chrome.jpg.html

That's not what Dark is saying. I cant debate with you because you have a hard time of comprehending things and it irritates me. Now leave this to dark, please.


Bro you’re not smart enough to insult anyone intelligence.
So type out exactly what you think 1 herc is.

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@Dark...

Yes, it gave off Hercs since that is the measuring tool that is used to measure power. What should it gave off, Doctor Strange. Lol... it was said that Hulk is as powerful as the Celestials. Is Hulk giving off Celestial power. As the Phoenix Force. Is he giving off Phoenix Force power. His potential is measured and its stacked up to their tier. The mystical PHYSICAL creature Herc was fighting was giving off Hercs of power that per your scan, puts it above the older Hercules.
... What?


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@Diesldude...

You tell me what you think 1 Herc means. This should be interesting.


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Here are the scans I am hinging my argument on. Maybe someone can explain Carv's argument to me better, because I honestly cannot understand what he's trying to argue.

These kids are helping Herc. They are using a device that was sent to them by Dr Cosimo - the original scientist who coined the Herc unit. I circled the relevant part:

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So, she, the inventor of the Herc, built and sent a mystical energy detection unit. OK.

They use it, and scan Baba Yaga's chicken leg house (no, not John Wick):
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They get a MYSTIC ENERGY reading of 1.3 Hercs, using the MYSTIC ENERGY DETECTING unit.

To put it a different way:
I, DS85, invent a sound energy detecting unit. Carv uses it, and detects that Tyson's punch has a sound energy reading of 200 plumbuses.

Is a plumbus a unit of heat energy? Mystic energy? Total energy? Or sound energy?


Idk what carver was arguing, I always thought that he used to post 1 herc equals the power of 1 Hercules.

Here there is a specific scan that says it’s equal the maximum energy expended by hercs punch. Let’s say herc punches as a x amount of energy behind it and that witch was 1.3*x but of a mystical type of energy. That witch had more mystical energy than the energy of one Hercules punch.

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Originally posted by carver9
@Diesldude...

You tell me what you think 1 Herc means. This should be interesting.
just answer my question and I won’t have any issues admitting that I was wrong about what you thought 1 herc equals.

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@Dark...

She used that same mystic energy detector to look for Bi-Beast, Wendigo, and the Hulk and none of them are mystical beings.

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@Dark...

She used that same mystic energy detector to look for Bi-Beast, Wendigo, and the Hulk and none of them are mystical beings.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/48...Chrome.jpg.html


Lol.

Firstly, please provide proof it's the same?

Secondly, she was tracking their mystic energy. Oh wait, none of them are? So why track mystic energy?

Answer: they had mystic wishing well water on them, which is what she was tracking:
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I mean, Red She Hulk isn't mystical either:
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And you're right, Hulk isn't mystical. BUuuuuut:
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This is getting embarrassing. Hercs are a measure of mystical energy. We are told this time and time again.


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I think this is now a repository of every mention of Hercs, lol.

And once again - mystic energy units:

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In summary - a Herc is a unit of mystic energy. The amount of mystical energy that Hercules can expend in one blow.

NOT a physical energy unit. Hulk withstanding 133 Hercs internally means nothing in a non-mystical sense, as its completely different.

Carver's next point: Hulk is weak against magic, so it's actually a PLUS!!

Wrong.

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It was pure anger. And Hulk is...well, he says it himself. Throwing anger at the Hulk is never going to kill him - Carver has actually had it all wrong all this time.

It's actually a low end feat, lol. We firstly have no idea how much mystical energy Herc expends in a punch (we know how much PHYSICAL energy, sure, but its meaningless here). Secondly, Hulk is being attacked by something which should amp him, and he nearly dies.


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Not reading all of that.


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Concession accepted.


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Lol... didnt concede. Your argument is just ridiculous so we are basically done. Apologies on you put all of that energy into your posts but at this moment in time, your entire argument is futile to me. We have some here that accept the ft as it is and we have Diesldude, Darksaint, Philo, Mr. Mind, deft, and ABHI that accept it as something else. Start a group chat and parade.


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Lol... didnt concede. Your argument is just ridiculous so we are basically done. Apologies on you put all of that energy into your posts but at this moment in time, your entire argument is futile to me. We have some here that accept the ft as it is and we have Diesldude, Darksaint, Philo, Mr. Mind, deft, and ABHI that accept it as something else. Start a group chat and parade.


Its strange that EVERY single mention of Hercs that specifies what type of energy it is is that it's MYSTICAL energy units.

Strange, that.

Edit: I'll just ask for a mod or someone. Tired of having this discussion, Rao before he passed away and I had this EXACT argument with you a couple of years ago.


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