Character Ownage

Started by Philosophía5,121 pages

Originally posted by krisblaze
Surfer is a shit character? Get the **** outta this thread.
In non-space cheese, Bambi.

“Save the day hero” Superman must be a shit character too then

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yep.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KT6miv0HXog/Wtb2jXGBFNI/AAAAAAAAHpc/qhHZqprSntE8ZkFQf2CXWlLo3LoDyNXgwCHMYCw/s1600/RCO076.jpg
Not really, the whole scene happened while the bullet was already fired and Superman was far away hence the time difference.

A human mugger can't possibly hesitate for an attosecond. And even if he could, the lady saving herself an attosecond of time means nothing really. Bullets just aren't fast enough for that to be relevant.

He also says that the bullet rotates once per femtosecond, which makes no sense unless bullets are FTL. None of the figures here really match up and what speed was Superman talking about when he said “then that speed I haven’t gone since Pa”

Ninjak:

Superman didn't say that the mugger, or the lady, were operating at attosecond time scales. He simply said that her stunt bought her an attosecond. Their hesitations and movements might have lasted for seconds for all we know, but the end result was that she bought her an attosecond compared to the alternative scenario where she did nothing. So, for all practical intents and purposes, her stunt didn't make any difference but Superman could still observe and analyze even such ridiculously small time differences.

Superman also didn't say that the bullet rotates once per femtosecond. He only said that a femtosecond after the ignition, he could already observe the bullet starting to rotate in the barrel. Yes, the bullet would have moved only about 1/10th of an atom (1E-11 meters, i.e. 0.1 Ångströms) during that time, but even such an infinitesimally small displacement is enough for Superman to detect the bullet's motion (and distinguish it from the thermal random motion of atoms) and conclude that the displacement results into rotation of the bullet as a whole.

Nice analysis. I think I'll use it in the Superman vs Goku thread, so everyone can ignore it and insist Goku is faster with no competing evidence.

Originally posted by Philosophía
You wouldn't believe how much space cheese feats are used on this forum as actual, solitary arguments. Relative portrayals are almost null.

It's why Thorbags had a meltdown after the last issue of Thor, and it's so easy to troll them.

It's a consequence of Surfer being a shit character that has to always rely on Michael Bay 'feats', and then other users being brainwashed into thinking that matters.

qft. the problem isnt the potrayals its dbag posters who dick ride pet characters and troll everyone else. That and that alone is the issue. Any decent debator on this forum will weigh all feats accordingly abd not cherry pick or lowball

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
A human mugger can't possibly hesitate for an attosecond. And even if he could, the lady saving herself an attosecond of time means nothing really. Bullets just aren't fast enough for that to be relevant.

He also says that the bullet rotates once per femtosecond, which makes no sense unless bullets are FTL. None of the figures here really match up and what speed was Superman talking about when he said “then that speed I haven’t gone since Pa”

Originally posted by Magnon
Superman didn't say that the mugger, or the lady, were operating at attosecond time scales. He simply said that her stunt bought her an attosecond. Their hesitations and movements might have lasted for seconds for all we know, but the end result was that she bought her an attosecond compared to the alternative scenario where she did nothing. So, for all practical intents and purposes, her stunt didn't make any difference but Superman could still observe and analyze even such ridiculously small time differences.

Superman also didn't say that the bullet rotates once per femtosecond. He only said that a femtosecond after the ignition, he could already observe the bullet starting to rotate in the barrel. Yes, the bullet would have moved only about 1/10th of an atom (1E-11 meters, i.e. 0.1 Ångströms) during that time, but even such an infinitesimally small displacement is enough for Superman to detect the bullet's motion (and distinguish it from the thermal random motion of atoms) and conclude that the displacement results into rotation of the bullet as a whole.


There you go.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There you go.
So bullets are FTL now?

Who said that? Also create a new thread to lowball if you want. Stop spamming in this thread.

Originally posted by Philosophía
You wouldn't believe how much space cheese feats are used on this forum as actual, solitary arguments. Relative portrayals are almost null.

It's why Thorbags had a meltdown after the last issue of Thor, and it's so easy to troll them.

It's a consequence of Surfer being a shit character that has to always rely on Michael Bay 'feats', and then other users being brainwashed into thinking that matters.

You're an idiot.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
So bullets are FTL now?

No! It was Kal that was observing everything in slow mo.

...I'm genuinely perplexed by the willful ignorance surrounding that scene.

All statements were made from Superman's point of view. The gunpowder ignited, and a femtosecond later Superman noted that the bullet had started to rotate inside the gun's barrel. The girl struggled with the gunman a bit, which inadvertently bought the extra attosecond that Superman needed to save her.

It's really not that hard to grasp, because again: it's all from Superman's POV.

That said, I imagine that only a select few can even begin to comprehend the actual units of measurement used, and the implications they have(especially in a battleboard setting):

"For context, an attosecond is to a second what a second is to about 31.71 billion years."

Let that soak in a bit... And then remember that Superman can view his surroundings like that any time he wants/needs to. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Ninjak:

ninjak is soooo effin cool but i just can help but dislike Man O War...hes seems like such a bitkh to me

Originally posted by Galan007
...I'm genuinely perplexed by the willful ignorance surrounding that scene.

All statements were made from Superman's point of view. The gunpowder ignited, and a femtosecond later Superman noted that the bullet had started to rotate inside the gun's barrel. The girl struggled with the gunman a bit, which inadvertently bought the extra attosecond that Superman needed to save her.

It's really not that hard to grasp.

Supes said the bullet starts rotating down the barrel in 1 femtosecond but 1 femtosecond equals 1e-9 microseconds, there’s no .45 ACP in history (moving 830 FPS) that can start rotating down the barrel after 1 femtosecond

Originally posted by Galan007
...I'm genuinely perplexed by the willful ignorance surrounding that scene.

All statements were made from Superman's point of view. The gunpowder ignited, and a femtosecond later Superman noted that the bullet had started to rotate inside the gun's barrel. The girl struggled with the gunman a bit, which inadvertently bought the extra attosecond that Superman needed to save her.

It's really not that hard to grasp, because again: it's all from Superman's POV.

That said, I imagine that only a select few can even begin to comprehend the actual units of measurement used, and the implications they have(especially in a battleboard setting):

[b]"For context, an attosecond is to a second what a second is to about 31.71 billion years."

Let that soak in a bit... And then remember that Superman can view his surroundings like that any time he wants/needs to. 🙂 [/B]

👆

They also have a hard time differentiating between how small a unit of a time Superman can perceive the world [i.e. a second to him is like the age of the Universe, lol], and how fast he can accelerate/fly. They're different abilities.Those are very two separate things. Green Lanterns can fly the Universe but, obviously, they cannot slow down the world to that [absolutely ridiculous] extent.

I did a quick calculation out of boredom...turns out, inside of 0.000008 (!) seconds, Superman accelerated [i.e. basically instantly] to 8,000,000,000 m/s [i.e. about 25 times the speed of light]. That level of acceleration is...ridiculous.

Originally posted by Philosophía
👆

They also have a hard time differentiating between how small a unit of a time Superman can perceive the world [i.e. a second to him is like the age of the Universe, lol], and how fast he can accelerate/fly. They're different abilities.Those are very two separate things. Green Lanterns can fly the Universe but, obviously, they cannot slow down the world to that [absolutely ridiculous] extent.

I did a quick calculation out of boredom...turns out, inside of 0.000008 (!) seconds, Superman accelerated [i.e. basically instantly] to 8,000,000,000 m/s [i.e. about 25 times the speed of light]. That level of acceleration is...ridiculous.


No, no. The writer was wrong, it doesn't count.

Comicvine literally has a meltdown regarding this feat.

😂

They did?

Any particular thread? I saw someone over there included the feat in a respect thread, so some posters buy into it..

Grant Morrison on Green Lantern?

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/04/20/grant-morrison-on-green-lantern-dc-fresh-start/

Make it happen.

Comicvine would have a circle jerk if one of their pet characters had an attosecond feat.

It's PIS/WIS now since Superman did it.