Can you handle the Truth?

Started by Dolos432 pages

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's a value defined by a single equation you could find in high school level algebra class. Only the inputs are particularly complicated. None of it is mathematically impossible. I suppose to some people it goes against their philosophy of science but that's about the limit of how it causes problems.
A 1 in a over googol chance that we get our cosmological constant.

Mathematical impossibility.

Err-uh Uh. If you counted all the hydrogen atoms in the entire universe you would get 1 followed by 80 zeroes. If you wanted the likely hood that we get our specific cosmological constant, it becomes a 1 in 1 followed by a one-hundred twenty-two zeroes chance that we get ours.

Truth is Truth.

The Word of God (the Bible) is Truth.

M-Theory, the theory of evolution, String Theory--none have been proven to be true.

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Originally posted by Dolos
A 1 in a over googol chance that we get our cosmological constant.

Mathematical impossibility.

Err-uh Uh. If you counted all the hydrogen atoms in the entire universe you would get 1 followed by 80 zeroes. If you wanted the likely hood that we get our specific cosmological constant, it becomes a 1 in 1 followed by a one-hundred twenty-two zeroes chance that we get ours.

That's not a mathematical impossibility. You just told us (completely inaccurately I might add) how probable it is. Things are mathematically impossible when they're impossible. If they're very unlikely they we say that they are "very unlikely".

In any case you're starting for misleading premises. The chance of us observing a universe with this cosmological constant is exactly 1 in 1. Universes without life do not have nonexistent philosophers talking about how probable they consider their nonexistence.

Dolos, I've read you claim to be a genius but I've seen you be proven wrong more than anybody else on these boards.

That has nothing to do with my intelligence, dolt. Intelligence is meaningless anyway. If I wanted a greater level of intelligence, it would want me to have it and, there I'd have it. The problem is others want me to fail greater than I want to succeed. It's the law of attraction. Willpower is the only meaningful thing.

One thing constitutes a truth, a desired truth, desired by a prime resolve. That means nothing can deny it for a second without overriding his resolve.

If I say I am in so and so's comp room, smashing his head through his expensive pc screen and lacerating his face and then being magically teleported back here, I would be if there weren't something overriding my will to not doubt that happening, to be rational, to make the fallacy that is logic.

And SM's ****** ass never proved me wrong, you're a pussy, raisen.

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
In any case you're starting for misleading premises. The chance of us observing a universe with this cosmological constant is exactly 1 in 1. Universes without life do not have nonexistent philosophers talking about how probable they consider their nonexistence.

that brought a tear to my eye

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Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Is there a point to reposting the same stuff over and over again, or do you intend to debate? If I pulled this kind of crap anywhere else as you do here, the community would (rightfully) obliterate me.

You must be new here.

Check my threads, I've engaged in numerous conversations and discussions with people here.

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You know, I'm glad you found your calling in Christianity. You're probably a good person, and there's no shame in what you do.

If Christianity is used as a mean to gain peace, and live a content life, it's served its purpose. JIS has missed the purpose.

Originally posted by Dolos
You know, I'm glad you found your calling in Christianity. You're probably a good person, and there's no shame in what you do.

Speak for yourself.

JesusIsAlive offers you his "wisdom," and when you say, "No thank you, I am not interested," he continues to insist that you take it, thinking that you will give in to the pressure.

He tries to justify his behavior by calling it "sharing," "love," and "kindness," but no matter by what name he calls it, it is still ignorant, rude, and selfish.

He is delusional, his behavior is shameful, and no one is interested in his god-damned "kindness" so he needs to shut up and keep it to himself.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Speak for yourself.

JesusIsAlive offers you his "wisdom," and when you say, "No thank you, I am not interested," he continues to insist that you take it, thinking that you will give in to the pressure.

He tries to justify his behavior by calling it "sharing," "love," and "kindness," but no matter by what name he calls it, it is still ignorant, rude, and selfish.

He is delusional, his behavior is shameful, and no one is interested in his god-damned "kindness" so he needs to shut up and keep it to himself.

+1. If I tried to spread the teachings of the Almighty Cthulu in my local school or public shopping area, I would hope that people would resist to my aggressive religious technique. Everyone has a right to their own religion; they do not have a green light to spam their religion and play the moral superiority card when their religion is responsible for wonderful human atrocities like the Spanish Inquisition, the multiple Crusades, polarizing 'Murica, and stifling science.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Things are mathematically impossible when they're impossible. If they're very unlikely they we say that they are "very unlikely".

There's probably more of a likelihood that a person is saved from twenty armed assailants because twenty lightning bolts hit and kill each and every one of them at the same time. There's probably more of a likelihood that a specific material composed of anti-matter atoms falls from the sky but any earthly matter doesn't have the right assortment of negatively charged electrons quite in tune for them to annihilate each other until this thing collides with a person and causes him to undergo spontaneous combustion. Lol, 1 in over a googol chance. When do you see statistics that assert this kind of unlikelihood? Never.

You can go ahead and choose to nit-pick between that and the impossible. I say nit-picking because it kind of is, read this.

To defy such super-astronomical odds is the strongest case could ever ever have for God. So if God were real why would he create humans that need to undergo trials and tribulations to have happiness, that seems silly? That's why I have my theories of the malevolent pantheon being the spawn of Uranus's fear and doubt, they wanted a theater were they could experience death, because they are immortal and they cannot. The universe wasn't God's plan, it is the result of the evolution of fear and malevolence. Call me ungrateful, but look around you. If were to find the balance of good things happening and bad things happening to people, you'll find the the aggregate of all good things that happen to people is nothing but an infinitesimal meager little morsel against the nigh-omnipresence of the aggregate of everyday inconvenience, right down to mass death and suffering of large masses of people caught in terrorist acts or war or tragedies every hour of every day. The scales are a little off for a benevolent design.

Infinity is a concept, not a number. It is a gap in our current understanding and we have never proven infinity's existence. There is no statistic that is n/infinity so we don't even know if there is a such thing as mathematical impossibility but if there were the fact that all the atoms ended up manifesting into the universe ended up capable of producing worlds that can themselves produce life is closest to it.

Now if Fermi's paradox were true, and we accounted that unlikelihood that no other planet in the billions of galaxies ended up with self-perceiving life forms advanced enough to alter their environments to topple over the cosmological constant we get a minutely increased improbability that earth is the only place with life like humans. That is anthropocentric. And like the concept of infinity or infinitesimality (zero) we do not have a very clear understanding of what consciousness truly is. Consciousness itself is paradoxical (the materials that make up the universe are put together in a special form that is somehow bestowed with a soul) and is of course made up of the universe, and for its lifetime consciousness is the universe experiencing and interacting with itself.

That is the perfect platform for a sado-masochistic immortal thing that is infallible and undying to experience the misery of a temporary existence. If man were made in Uranus' image, and woman made in Gaia's image, their wayward children would see us as the perfect form of life to ruin and make suffer. But as we're susceptible to their harmful observations and desires and controls, we're also susceptible to the effects of Uranus' or Gaia's empowering controls. Using the Greek pantheon is of course metaphorical to what metaphysical forces may or may not actually be at work.