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fact - warlock CANNOT steal anyone's soul. it has been resisted MANY times in the past.
fact - warlock's soul gem and karmic blasts did nothing but annoy an angry hercules when they battled.
fact - hercules pummeled the crap out of warlock.
fact - when thanos and ss attacked odin, warlock was told to EVACUATE the area because the COLLATERAL damage from the fight would be too great for him to handle! and odin had a soul too. if the soul gem is 1/6 the greatest weapon in all the universes, it should have been powerful enough to fell a sky father, no? or to at LEAST absorb the soul of thor!
the incident where warlock turned thanos to stone was a complete and utter aberration. he's never done anything like that before OR since, nor has the why's of it ever been rightfully explained.
supes is stronger, faster and much more durable than marvel's hercules (much to my chagrin!!) and his will power is second to absolutley no one. cripes, this is frickin' superman! the dude INVENTED the strategy of "fighting the toughest bad guys in the universe one on one!" he's taken shots from imperiex and darkseid and a host of other high level 'cosmics'. just because he doesn't wield energy, doesn't make him 'not a cosmic'! cripes. i'm not sure if it's anti-dc or anti-superman sentiment, but come ON. READ supes, see what he can do/has done. warlock might dance and teleport and stay away from supes, but he's not taking supes out, and if he stays to fight, supes, like hercules did, will take warlock out. and it didn't take hercules too long . . .
geez, give the dude some respect, even if you don't like him . . .
Warlock doesn't just go around stealing peoples souls, anyway. No one's disrespecting Superman. But, the truth is that he isn't even close to Adam Warlock in power.
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the vampiric effects have been resisted by abyss, rune (who actually killed warlock) and in the distant past by thor. the karmic effects have been resisted by too many to name here. i believe thanos has also resisted having his soul stolen, but i can't recall when or what the circumstances were.
any high level cosmic would resist it. not to mention the fact that warlock risks going crazy if he uses it, which is why, as you say cc, he very rarely even tries to use it. and hercules and warlock met up in infinity watch 26-27.
and i'm not saying supes could DEFINITELY resist having his soul absorbed, i'm saying others have and it's not a stretch in my mind if he did. and for both of you (long and cc): if he can't put out hercules or thor, how is he supposed to ko supes??
Dude, Thanos has the Infinity Reality Gem. He's no run-of the-mill cosmic.
I've never seen his fight with Hercules, so I can't comment. What I can say is that Warlock almost never uses the full potential of the gem. The Gem doesn't have a full potential. As it's name suggests, the Infinity Soul Gem's power is infinite.
"Gods" like Thor, Hercules, and the like seem to have a resistance to the Karmic Blasts. I don't know why superman would. Being a living solar battery doesn't give one divinity.
I don't recall anyone ever resisting the Soul Rip, although Count Abyss, having no Soul whatsoever, was unaffected by the Gem until Adam forced Judge Autolacus' soul into him, and then ripped it out again. Thanos fears this attack.
That being said, I wouldn't consider the Soul Rip as a typical tactic for Adam, any more than the Pound-You-To-Dust-Before-You-See-Me-Coming attack would be typical for Superman. Niether one leads off with that kind of visciousness
Barring Superman KO-ing Adam right off the bat (a definite possability), I would bet on Warlock. Karmic blasts would probably drop Clark. Only magicall/spiritual based entities seem to have resisted them, and that's not his strong suit.
Adam can be a puzzle. His deep working knowlenge of reality itself allows him to occasionally do things that would otherwise seem impossable. He's like a walking Spiderman vs. Firelord. How did he avoid being fried by Galactus and then appear atop big G's helmet? There's a reason the God Squad there decided to back his play. Of course that cant really be reflected in a bio-type rundown, or even measured.
He certainly could beat Superman, but I'd never under-estimate a faster-than-a-speeding-bullet right cross either.
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Warlock battled Rune for at least a couple days. He did it without his cosmic, karma staff, and psionics. He battled him in hand to hand combat. Yeah, he lost the battle, but he didn't die. He spun himself in a cocoon to prevent Rune stealing his blood/soul, and he emerged a few hunderd thousand years later so it says, in lab built around him, with a new host of abilities. He then meets a person with a near identical match to his DNA, Noel whom he mistakes as his brother, but later turns into the new Rune, and Warlock then kills him off. He hopped into Rune's head and performed an exorcism of his soul, and Rune dies. By the way this all happens in the Ultraverse. If he used all of his powers the first time, it would have been all Warlock. Is superman Thanos? No. I don't think he could resist the gem.
I'm not sure those Ultraverse stories are in Continuity. They involved the Infinity Gens being destroyed, as part of that "Black September" nonsense. But they reappeared (along with the Black Knight) with no mention of that ever having happenned.
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No. he wouldn't.
Strong soul or not, you cannot resist the gem.
And SM cant handle his telepathy, and you act like Superman has a speed advantage, he doesn't.
Warlock would end it in a nanosecond if he was in bloodlust.
You need to read more classic marvel, IG sagas included.
You just simply don't know much about marvel, which is fine, but don't get pissy when people call you names.
Superman is nothing compaired to most cosmics. He's an Earth hero who does things on a planetary scale, cosmics do things on a universal scale.
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