Damn. This takes me back. That shadow warrior stuff is cool, but if true the guy shouldn't get his a$$ kicked by Shiva, Dstroke & Batgirl. And Bane shouldn't have beaten him either. I wonder where that shadow warrior stuff came from.
His arch enemy is a clown
He got beat by Bane
He hangs out with children
Im not convinced that Cap will go down so easy to some gas. I dunno who would win in the end, but something i can guarantee is it wont be pretty, and it wont come down to neural scramblers or knockout gas.
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i are a bat fanboy. bats is my #1 fave, but cap is like, #2 or #3. it would be awesome, but i think bat is going to win. and gas probably isnt going to stop cap, red skulls death gas is averted all the time. not saying the gas is useless, it just wont be the deciding factor. and cap is about as focussed as batman, and can use his shield with deadly accuracy and power. in a recent cap comic, he threw his shield at a helicopter while dodging gunfire on top of a speeding train with enough power to tear through the helicopters tail and return to him from about a 1/4 mile away after he throws a punch and isnt even looking in the direction its coming from and still catch it. and in that fight he did kill two terrorists and put one in a coma so he can be mean if he wants to. just wanted to put up some redeeming qualities for cap
You listed a bunch of awesome foes that Batman has taken down on his own. But there is one that I read recently where Cap takes out Giant-Man on his own. It was a really impressive fight. The size meant absolutely nothing to Cap. And he didn't even have his shield. He didn't need it. Instead of attempting to tell you about it, you should check it out. I believe it was in The Ultimates graphic novel #2.
By the by, I think Captain America wins.
Edit: I just read something on the fight again. And I just wanted to say that Cap literally beats Giant-Man (while giant mind you) to a pulp. To a pulp, people. C'mon. Batman could not do that.
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His costume could withstand hits from Class 100? Batman 1M or Bruce Wayne? LMAO
Let Superman hit him full tilt and Batman will be a bat smear on the concrete. Guano, even.
I wonder if Black Panther's suit could withstand a hit from even a Class 20 character, and it is more advanced than Bat's is.
Batman is not more skilled in h2h than Captain America is, hence the commentary in that crossover that is in continuity.
Scratch that. Say not more "efficient."
It is widely accepted (not on here, ironically) that Black Panther is Batman's superior in h2h, and Black Panther's...father (ancestor; cannot recall if exactly was the father) stomped Captain America.
Batman and Captain America are in the same category in h2h.
For all of these lists of Batman's supposed skillset let us discuss comic book occurences, why don't we? Prometheus, who had profiles of 30 of the best DC martial artists? If Batman is as skilled as people like to say he is, why when the fight was over did he say, quote:
"that...was a humbling experience." In the second fight it went back and forth (he broke Prometheus' jaw, Prometheus shot him in the chest) until Batman had to cheat to win (he's never above doing that, and shouldn't be).
Cap is almost always portrayed as "finding a way;" Bat's is the master of prep.
By the way, didn't they meet again in that crossover?
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Cap is batmans superior in all physical aspects and is at least as good a fighter...BM has gadgets......its a tough fight but overall Cap is going to win this more often
Sure Captain America is mr. steroids...but Batman got chi and he got smarts...and including all kinds of gadgets that will just surprise cap...if batman fights captain america in a straight up hand to hand...then i'm going with cap because of his super serum..not because of his fighting skill..but if everything goes...then cap loses to the bat...no doubt!
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I have seen Batman and Captain America in three crossovers together and all pinpointed them at being nearly equal at h2h.
* Marvel vs. DC crossover - they spent hours fighting without additional props (utility belt, vibranium shield) without any clearcut advantage on one another and Captain America only lost when the sewage swept him off. No clear winner.
* Avengers / JLA - they both tested each other's attack and Batman admits that Cap. was superior, but the fight would still be stretched long before that happens. Word of mouth (can't say that's legitimate proof of Cap's superiority).
* WWII scenario Captain America / Batman - I think it was Bruce (Batman) that ambushed Steve (Captain America) and neither one was able to hurt the other when both successfully parried each offensive attack. Apparently equal in this fight, but this was not in continuum (Bucky is alive).
Without any additional supplies, I think the fight is stalemate. With supplies, Batman has the advantage.
I'd say they are nearly equal. Cap's got a slight edge.
*Marvel vs. DC--Bats was getting tired (huffing and puffing). Cap wasn't
*Avengers / JLA-- Bats talked his way out of an eventual beatdown. Smart man
* WWII scenario Captain America / Batman-- Cap was wearing the military uniform and Batman had his rich guy clothes if I remember right. Bruce was thinking they were nearly even with Cap having a slight edge in speed.
is not bane just an evil version of caps he has all the martial art skills and has steroids in his body just like cap to make him strong so if he can beat bane why not cap.
yes he did after he broke into arkum asylum and release all the criminals and batman spent all night capturing every major criminal in the city, tired and depleted of all his energy he was ambushed and defeated by bane subsequently braking the dark knight's back in two. it was a great storyline.
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