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Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
It hasn't been made clear how and why Nefaria doesn't escape. One logical explanation is bad writing or he might have been held in something special there.

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Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
The point is he was held !!!!!!!!!! Current Supes could easilly lift the entire Island .... he is not being held in any prison unless its is magical or constructed from Kryptonite / New Gen tech .... Marvel strength levels are just not on the same level as Current Supes .... Their Strongest are at most on a Wonder Woman level, with the exception of Skyfathers , and Sentry

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Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
The point is he was held !!!!!!!!!! Current Supes could easilly lift the entire Island .... he is not being held in any prison unless its is magical or constructed from Kryptonite / New Gen tech .... Marvel strength levels are just not on the same level as Current Supes .... Their Strongest are at most on a Wonder Woman level, with the exception of Skyfathers , and Sentry

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Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
The point is that it was held after he was defeated by an entier roster he stomped earlier on. God knows what exactly happened for him to land and be kept there. And nope, Superman couldn't do the same. Look at what happened in JLA/Avengers continuity, he got punked by a dogpile while Nefaria shrugged it.

It is completely PIS that a guy who just laid waste to a team would be kept in the raft just like any other inmates without some proper measures that would have been taken.

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Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Iron man was there but the rest weren't esepcailly the two strongest characters e.g. Wonderman and Herc .... I also have reservations about the realism of that event .... Plus he had been knocked about by a Wonder Woman strength character with a 'mystical' piece of metal ... It probably did a lot of prior damage ... In tern your point is mute !

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Originally posted by superman420sexy
Well, Superman is now capable of lifting 200 quintillion TONS with ONE hand. A quintillion is a thousand quadrillions, and a quadrillion is a billion billions. So superman can lift 200,000 billionxbillion tons with one hand.... crazy... he takes nefaria and throws him to the outer reaches of spacce

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Originally posted by unknowable
Our Gladiator moves your fancy planets too, besides being able to achieve 100x the speed of light during flight.

And that' just one example of mad strength, if you want I can name more.

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Originally posted by unknowable
Well so much for He-man being the goof of strength, I thought He-Man throwing
500+ Billion ton mountains around was the pinncle of stupidity, but if that's true(about Superman), I can bet you he's gonna get boring real quick, that nonsense works on abstacts and deities the likes of Celestials and what not, for an everyday character it get's boring.

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Originally posted by unknowable
Well so much for He-man being the goof of strength, I thought He-Man throwing
500+ Billion ton mountains around was the pinncle of stupidity, but if that's true(about Superman), I can bet you he's gonna get boring real quick, that nonsense works on abstacts and deities the likes of Celestials and what not, for an everyday character it get's boring.

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Originally posted by Ex11B
The only thing that was keeping Nefaria in the raft was #1.he might not have been fully powered or#2 He may been kept in some Cell that kept his Ionic energy in check.....Maybe

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Originally posted by unknowable
Our Gladiator moves your fancy planets too, besides being able to achieve 100x the speed of light during flight.

And that' just one example of mad strength, if you want I can name more.

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Originally posted by unknowable
Well so much for He-man being the goof of strength, I thought He-Man throwing
500+ Billion ton mountains around was the pinncle of stupidity, but if that's true(about Superman), I can bet you he's gonna get boring real quick, that nonsense works on abstacts and deities the likes of Celestials and what not, for an everyday character it get's boring.

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Originally posted by Juntai
Gladiator's one time 100x flight speed doesn't hold much wieght, it's a one time feat, while the forum is considered of consistant strength. For intesive purposes, it was a particularly powered up moment.

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Originally posted by Lucid Lui
True, but the Fantastic Four issues where he is able to amp his speed to move with Reed, Thor and everyone (who were using tech to move that fast. And they also comment that they've been working for 2 weeks and nothing else appears to have moved at all) backs up the fact that pretty much no one from Earth should be able to touch Glads, and that he could majorly speed blitz most opponents if he utilized his speed.

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Originally posted by Juntai
Yep, but Superman can do the same thing.
I'm not saying he's not fast, I'm saying he's not 100x lightspeed consistantly or even anything close to consistantly..It was a one shot feat.

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Originally posted by Juntai
Yep, but Superman can do the same thing.
I'm not saying he's not fast, I'm saying he's not 100x lightspeed consistantly or even anything close to consistantly..It was a one shot feat.

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Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
Thats why i stopped reading JLA......................and the fact that i could'nt find Zaurial in them anymore and Kyle left and more importantly look down

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Originally posted by Juntai
Gladiator's one time 100x flight speed doesn't hold much wieght, it's a one time feat, while the forum is considered of consistant strength. For intesive purposes, it was a particularly powered up moment.

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Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I disagree .... If written properly (which is rarely ) a God like Superman is just as interesting (if not, more so) than the Byrne esque realistic version !