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Omega Vision
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Doomsday takes the power gem from him.


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Much like you're speculating about Doomsday. Doomsday may be a badass in the DC Universe, in the Marvel Universe he'd just be another brick like Juggernaut. There are two problems with your Thor analysis. For starters when Thor had the gem he was blood lusted and not thinking clearly. So of course he wouldn't make effective use of the Gem. Secondly he didn't have it for very long. Had he kept it after the fight it is highly probable that his feats with it would've bee more impressive.

What, you think he's made out of adamantium?
DD is more durable than adamantium. Darkseid can instant vapor adamantium but not DD.

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You keep mentioning Superman like he is some "default" argument. There is one irrefutable fact that you cannot get around, niether Drax nor Doomsday are Superman. Until Superman fights Drax and beats him, it is impossible to prove that Superman is the better fighter. Strength and lifting feats DO NOT equal fighting feats. And I am not making up powers. Drax had energy powers in the past, the Power Gem allows for the duplication of Superpowers, therefore the possibility of him replicating that ability is possible. Superman is below Galactus level yet he hurt Doomsday. If he was able to be injured in Hunter/Prey he can be injured again. He may have been able to quickly heal from a cut, but getting his head ripped of would be something else entirely.
Superman is stronger, faster, more durable, has more powers than Drax with PG. Drax doesn't offer anything that Superman doesn't offer. Thus the comparison is valid.
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Drax himself may not be able too, the Power Gem can though.

The Power Gem amplifies powers you already have. They don't give you the power to create any energy you want. You must provide proof of this on panel. Even if it did, then Drax doesn't know what a particular energy is made out of by only its name. What is kryptonite made of?
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In the DC Superhero community Doomsday's abilities ARE basic knowledge.
NO! The general population. Not the Superhero community. The Superhero community knows that Clark Kent is Superman but that is not general knowledge. Again, this is moot as no one knows what a specific type of energy is made of just by knowing it's name.
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Drax's previous experience with the Gem and his new level of intelligence would make him potentially the most powerful Gem wielder ever, rivaling Thanos himself.
He must prove it. Since he didn't then he is not. He is only limited to his showings and thus the PG does nothing for him.
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laughing ...oh wait, you're serious, my bad.



And assuming that just because Doomsday beat Superman means that he can beat anyone else isn't speculation? You speculate that he would perform the same against Drax as he did Superman. You speculate that Doomsday is incapable of being injured. You speculate that Drax's current intelligence would play no factor in his ability to use the Power Gem.
Superman is better than Drax in every way. Even if he wasn't then it is moot to whether DD can beat Superman. Why? Because DD is stronger than Superman, faster than Drax, more durable than Drax. These advantages alone gives DD the auto win.


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DD is more durable than adamantium. Darkseid can instant vapor adamantium but not DD.
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He's basing that off of those missiles Superman failed to destroy, but Darkseid wasted with his OE who then failed to keep Doomsday down with them, I'd imagine. I'm pretty sure he feels those missiles are = or > adamantium.


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He's basing that off of those missiles Superman failed to destroy, but Darkseid wasted with his OE who then failed to keep Doomsday down with them, I'd imagine. I'm pretty sure he feels those missiles are = or > adamantium.


Yup I do. Superman couldn't put a scratch on them combined with the fact they were made with nigh indestructible New God metal.


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You don't see why it's at the very least questionable to assume they're equal to adamantium, much less greater, do you?


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You don't see why it's at the very least questionable to assume they're equal to adamantium, much less greater, do you?


Superman is stronger than some who at least dented adamantium. Thus at the very least it is very close to adamantium in strength (if less).


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Superman is stronger than some who at least dented adamantium. Thus at the very least it is very close to adamantium in strength (if less).

Just out of curiosity, what color is the sky in your world?

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Drax beating Thanos is much more impressive than Doomsday beating Superman. Superman is one of the most overrated characters. His victories aren't based on his abilities, they're based on the fact that he is DC's bread and butter, Batman and Green Lantern are good, but they don't even come close to approaching Superman's sales numbers. They never would have killed him or even created Doomsday in the first place, unless they needed a gimmick. Marvel doesn't have that problem. Their solid roster of characters and loyal fans have brought them to the point that there is no such thing as an un-killable character in the Marvel Universe. This is why Drax beating Thanos is much more impressive than Doomsday killing Superman, IMO. DOS, was purely gimmick, it only happened because the TV people wanted to do the wedding of Lois and Clark before the comic did, so they needed a "Plan B". Basically, Superman will only die when the writers decide they need to boost their sales or run out of novelties. On the Marvel side Thanos gets no such treatment. He has become one of the most powerful, hardest to defeat characters in all of comics, through consistency, good writing, and fan loyalty. Not favoritism.

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If you can kill Thanos in a one on one fight it's because you're a bad mother f*cker, not because sales have begun to suffer or the writers need a new gimmick.

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