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Pre Ret Con Beyonder Vs. THe Presence
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Galan007
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Originally posted by darthgoober
eek! Wait now how does that work? Because I'm pretty sure there have been people in comics refering to God for a while now.
yeah, here is a woman from the beyonder series asking god to save her...... hmmmm confused
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How is god not omnipotent?...laughing out loud


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Stalemate


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God creates 3 beyonders and they beat the crap out of the beyonder. It's all with in God's power to do so. But the beyonder cannot create another God.


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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No, you disslike him becuase he make a fool out of you each time you argue, you're not really as smart as his arch-rival (GalacticStorm).
Now let's see:
GEB = Presence - in every aspect.
Presence haven't shown any feature at all.
Don't compare him with TOAA, because Presence is a fictional character.

Now statements:
Beyonder: Had the powers of the writers...
GEB: Have the same power as the Presence...

Now powerwise: We got to the conclution that Thanos w/ HoTU is weaker than- or equal to PR Beyonder (their vs threads)
And Thanos had the power of the supreme being.

At the time PR Beyonder was he was the most powerful being there was.


rolling on floor laughing Quotes like this are truly moronic it makes one ponder if guys like this are trolls. Beyonder is not beating the presence and his neither his equal whats wrong with some people here dam.


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Stalemate


roll eyes (sarcastic) Would you say he stalemates TOAA?


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It's all with in God's power to do so. But the beyonder cannot create another God.


Beyonder makes Dazzler a few Million times more powerful than the Multi-verse
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Not just God, but beyond that.


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Originally posted by sexyking
Would you say he stalemates TOAA?


In Power?

Yes.


In Omniscience?

No.


Beyonder is above THOTU in Power though.


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I don't understand. Everyone should be like me. See a thread started by Neverbeenwithagirl... and walk the hell away. He never backs up any of his bogus statements with issues. quotes. scans. anything. Its just his idealistic fanboyism.

But in anycase. 2nd level calculus is hard.

Solving for Integrals >>>> Presence.


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Originally posted by Mr Master
In Power?

Yes.


In Omniscience?

No.


Beyonder is above THOTU in Power though.




So what your saying is the presence isn't omniscience but TOAA is?

Since you stated its a stalemate you must think the presence isn't omniscience, since you think they are equal in power which i think is complete bullsh.., if beings of equal power fought i can guarantee you the one who is omniscience would come out on top. Please clarify all this is a little confusing?


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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But the beyonder cannot create another God.


LT is more powerful than Gods (ain't talking about Odin either)


Infinity Gauntlet made Thanos GOD
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Infinity Gauntlet made Warlock GOD too,
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NOT LIKE GOD.....God


LT represents He who is Above Gods
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And LT himself, is Above Gods

Warlock Obliterates the hierarchy of representitives, except for LT ofcourse.
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With a gesture LT STOPS the IG ATTACK and RECREATES the Abstracts
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Death is ERASED across The Entire Multiverse
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This would cause a MULTIVERSAL INBALANCE,

And this is what LT was created for, to step in when NO one else can fix it
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The Living Tribunal did NOTHING!!!

Beyonder > LT > Gods

Beyonder > Gods


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Originally posted by sexyking
So what your saying is the presence isn't omniscience but TOAA is?

Since you stated its a stalemate you must think the presence isn't omniscience, since you think they are equal in power which i think is complete bullsh.., if beings of equal power fought i can guarantee you the one who is omniscience would come out on top. Please clarify all this is a little confusing?
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So what your saying is the presence isn't omniscience but TOAA is?


No.

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Originally posted by sexyking
if beings of equal power fought i can guarantee you the one who is omniscience would come out on top. Please clarify all this is a little confusing?


I wouldn't guarantee that at all.

If that were true, Captain Marvel would never lose within the 616 Universe.

Captain Marvel has FULL knowledge of the Universe
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Captain Marvel shares a Oneness with ALL THINGS
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Captain Marvel is ONE with the Universe
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That's right, Captain Marvel has been Universally Omniscient since the late 70's, and believe me he's lost battles against characters that were FAR from omniscient.


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Since you stated its a stalemate you must think the presence isn't omniscience, since you think they are equal in power


I'll clarify myself,

TOAA = Presence

Beyonder = TOAA in Power, NOT Omniscience.

Beyonder = The Presence in Power, NOT Omniscience.

Beyonder, the most powerful character ever created by Marvel
Presence, the most powerful character in DC


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Originally posted by Mr Master
LT is more powerful than Gods (ain't talking about Odin either)


Infinity Gauntlet made Thanos GOD
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Infinity Gauntlet made Warlock GOD too,
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NOT LIKE GOD.....God


LT represents He who is Above Gods
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And LT himself, is Above Gods

Warlock Obliterates the hierarchy of representitives, except for LT ofcourse.
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With a gesture LT STOPS the IG ATTACK and RECREATES the Abstracts
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LT Bio
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Death is ERASED across The Entire Multiverse
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This would cause a MULTIVERSAL INBALANCE,

And this is what LT was created for, to step in when NO one else can fix it
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The Living Tribunal did NOTHING!!!

Beyonder > LT > Gods

Beyonder > Gods
Wait a minute, are you trying to say the Living Tribunal is above The Presence now?
lololol.

While you're using all this speculative bullshit, why don't we just pull up the millions of times Superman was compared to God and called the most powerful being on the space/time continuum?


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Originally posted by Mr Master

I'll clarify myself,

TOAA = Presence

Beyonder = TOAA in Power, NOT Omniscience.

Beyonder = The Presence in Power, NOT Omniscience.

Beyonder, the most powerful character ever created by Marvel
Presence, the most powerful character in DC
The Presence is not a character. It is the source of everything.


And Beyonder hasbeen proven a farce, but during the short timespan at face value, sure I could agree with that.


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Originally posted by Juntai
The Presence is not a character. It is the source of everything.
yahweh has been protrayed, does he not equal the presence


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yahweh has been protrayed, does he not equal the presence
Yahweh is a Vertigo character.


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okay there is nothing equal to god. except GEB in DCU but thats it. Beyonder is no more equal to Yahweh than LT is. Sure he is powerful but if he was so powerful why was he able to be retconned?Huh? IN both universes you don't retcon Supreme Being but you can to all else. So just by being retconned he is shown not to be equal to Yahweh in any shape or form.


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Originally posted by Juntai
Wait a minute, are you trying to say the Living Tribunal is above The Presence now? lololol


I never said that or implied, next time read my post carefully and don't be so quick to snap your mouth.

sorry...the "lololol" got to me, considering you were wrong.


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Originally posted by Juntai
While you're using all this speculative bullshit,


Come on Jun, your better than this.


quote: (post)
Originally posted by Juntai
why don't we just pull up the millions of times Superman was compared to God and called the most powerful being on the space/time continuum?



I'll answer this with your own quote:
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Originally posted by Juntai
While you're using all this speculative bullshit,




ps.

Didn't know Superman became a Universe before.

Didn't know Superman COMPLETELY Overpowered a blast of Energy that Erases Multi-verses

Didn't know Superman could ONLY be defeated by the second most powerful being in the Omni-verse.


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No.



I wouldn't guarantee that at all.

If that were true, Captain Marvel would never lose within the 616 Universe.

Captain Marvel has FULL knowledge of the Universe
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Captain Marvel shares a Oneness with ALL THINGS
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Captain Marvel is ONE with the Universe
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That's right, Captain Marvel has been Universally Omniscient since the late 70's, and believe me he's lost battles against characters that were FAR from omniscient.




I'll clarify myself,

TOAA = Presence

Beyonder = TOAA in Power, NOT Omniscience.

Beyonder = The Presence in Power, NOT Omniscience.

Beyonder, the most powerful character ever created by Marvel
Presence, the most powerful character in DC



Yes But captain Mar-vel isnt supreme in power is he.Anyway i still disagree that the beyonder is equal in power to the presence or TOAA.


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