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Deadline
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Originally posted by Battlehammer

Again capt not in this thread and trapping capt is not the same as trapping wolverine or shatter star.

If you cant understand the relevance of Cap in this thread, your obvoulsy wasting my time and im not going to bother with your other points.

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If he couldn't kill Captain America with prep, how on earth is he going to kill Wolverine?

LOL Baron Zemo couldnt kill Cap with prep either whose the leader of the of Thunderbolts? 9 timess out of ten villains wont beat heroes with prep not because they're stupid but if heroes lost all the time people wouldnt want to read comic books. At the end of they day you have to look at how well they did.

Cap had to stop and serioulsy think about his next step and the slightest wrong decison could have got him killed. Cap is tactiaclly smarter than Wolverine, Wolverine is going to have more trouble.

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Wolverine heals a million times faster, has even more experience, can detect any traps and is about as skilled...

LOL you know how Deadpool beat Wolverine once? All he did is fire into him a massive load of drugs. Crossbones doesnt have the resources to do that? laughing

Hell if Crossbones was such a slob he wouldnt have been hired to kill Kingpin.

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Originally posted by Alfheim
If you cant understand the relevance of Cap in this thread, your obvoulsy wasting my time and im not going to bother with your other points.

LOL Baron Zemo couldnt kill Cap with prep either whose the leader of the of Thunderbolts? 9 timess out of ten villains wont beat heroes with prep not because they're stupid but if heroes lost all the time people wouldnt want to read comic books. At the end of they day you have to look at how well they did.

Cap had to stop and serioulsy think about his next step and the slightest wrong decison could have got him killed. Cap is tactiaclly smarter than Wolverine, Wolverine is going to have more trouble.

LOL you know how Deadpool beat Wolverine once? All he did is fire into him a massive load of drugs. Crossbones doesnt have the resources to do that?

Hell if Crossbones was such a slob he wouldnt have been hired to kill Kingpin.

Being hired by a guy who likes you like the Red Skull does not actually mean that you are good.

Crossbones is not a top 5 mercenary.

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Being hired by a guy who likes you like the Red Skull does not actually mean that you are good.

Crossbones is not a top 5 mercenary.

What a terrible post. Im not even going to bother replying to that, your a complete waste of time.

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Jan 10th, 2008 02:07 PM

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What a terrible post. Im not even going to bother replying to that, your a complete waste of time.

So very hypocritical.

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So very hypocritical.

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Originally posted by llagrok
Alfheim just fails to realize the plain and simple truth, that Crossbones completely and utterly fails.

If he couldn't kill Captain America with prep, how on earth is he going to kill Wolverine? Wolverine heals a million times faster, has even more experience, can detect any traps and is about as skilled...

pritty much.

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If you cant understand the relevance of Cap in this thread, your obvoulsy wasting my time and im not going to bother with your other points.

Again you miss the point.

capt not them. He doe snto fight like them. Cross bones does not know them like he does capt. Capt does not have there attributes.

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Cap is tactiaclly smarter than Wolverine, Wolverine is going to have more trouble..

He not. Also capt does not have logans senses, durability or healing factor.

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LOL you know how Deadpool beat Wolverine once? All he did is fire into him a massive load of drugs. Crossbones doesnt have the resources to do that? ..

actaully he doesent. Nor does he have to connections of weapon x who have extensive knowledge on logan.

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Hell if Crossbones was such a slob he wouldnt have been hired to kill Kingpin.

.........is that supsoe to impress us?

neither wolverine or shatter star would have any trouble killing kingpin.

also unlike cross bones they would not have failed

Jan 10th, 2008 11:52 PM

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Anyway if Deadpool can beat Wolverine by loading a gun with lots of drugs, something tells me that Crossbones can think of something within a week. Hell even if bullets and explosives dont kill or KO him a combination of attacks can soften him up.

Anyway I give it to Shatterstar and Wolverine 6/10. 6/10 due to the fact Wolverines HF has been reduced.

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Anyway if Deadpool can beat Wolverine by loading a gun with lots of drugs, something tells me that Crossbones can think of something within a week. Hell even if bullets and explosives dont kill or KO him a combination of attacks can soften him up.

They had months and the organization had information on logan well beyond anything that cross bones to achieve with 5 years of prep.

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Anyway I give it to Shatterstar and Wolverine 6/10. 6/10 due to the fact Wolverines HF has been reduced.

even though we have yet to see how much it has effect logans healing factor.

sorry,but your reasoning is awful.

you should have said "it becuase an ignorant bias capt loving fanboy."

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*bump*

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Wolverine's ability to sence a trap is eclipsed only by Spider-Man. Shatterstar is agile enought to dodge one after it has already been sprung. Wolverine can track CB down by scent so he would not be that hard to find...Wolverine and Shatterstar kill Crossbones when they find him since neither one of them is afraid to kill.

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Wolverine's ability to sence a trap is eclipsed only by Spider-Man. Shatterstar is agile enought to dodge one after it has already been sprung. Wolverine can track CB down by scent so he would not be that hard to find...Wolverine and Shatterstar kill Crossbones when they find him since neither one of them is afraid to kill.

Thats what people said in The Punisher vs Wolverine thread. Wolverine gets shot all the time.

CB can also cover up his scent like Bucky did.

Mar 17th, 2008 11:47 AM

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That possability crossed my mind too. Regardless even in Wolverine couldnt smell him as well the team has too much skill to get hemmed up by the likes of Crossbones.

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That possability crossed my mind too. Regardless even in Wolverine couldnt smell him as well the team has too much skill to get hemmed up by the likes of Crossbones.

I'll give them the majority but hes not as bad as you think. Crossbones got Cap into a trap that would have blown Wolverine to smithereens.

He also saved Red Skulls life from Magneto.

Shatterstar didnt even managed to block all the bullets fired by War Machines guns, good thing he was firing rubber bullets.

I dunno man I think Crossbones is comparable to Frank in terms of prep and he has a week.

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I'll give them the majority but hes not as bad as you think. Crossbones got Cap into a trap that would have blown Wolverine to smithereens.

How did that end again? With Cap escaping?

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He also saved Red Skulls life from Magneto.

He rescued Red Skull's life, sure, but Magneto was long gone by then. All he did was find out where he was held prisoner, and set him free. Not much of a feat.

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Shatterstar didnt even managed to block all the bullets fired by War Machines guns, good thing he was firing rubber bullets.

He could hold his own against gunfire for a little while, and that would be enough for Wolverine to track him down. Or Wolverine could take the bullets and Shatterstar tracks him down.

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I dunno man I think Crossbones is comparable to Frank in terms of prep and he has a week.

Maybe, but he needs more feats and exposure to actually determine that. Crossbones is cool in my book, but he's not exactly A-material on a consistent basis.

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How did that end again? With Cap escaping?

Cap has a shield Wolverine does not. Wolverine would have got blown up.

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He rescued Red Skull's life, sure, but Magneto was long gone by then. All he did was find out where he was held prisoner, and set him free. Not much of a feat.

There was no security there?

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He could hold his own against gunfire for a little while, and that would be enough for Wolverine to track him down. Or Wolverine could take the bullets and Shatterstar tracks him down.

Why are you assuming that Crossbones is just going to fire at one of them when there are so many other options?

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Maybe, but he needs more feats and exposure to actually determine that. Crossbones is cool in my book, but he's not exactly A-material on a consistent basis.

Well hes shown to be pretty good with prep anyway and hes gets a week. Hell as far as I know CB pawned Winter Solider and hes no slouch, so I dont know where this B-list is coming from. I guess people think that because he looks like Deadpool but hes not.

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Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats what people said in The Punisher vs Wolverine thread. Wolverine gets shot all the time.

CB can also cover up his scent like Bucky did.

.....................how? run into an ink factory and cover him self up with ink and arming himself with just a knife?

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I'll give them the majority but hes not as bad as you think. Crossbones got Cap into a trap that would have blown Wolverine to smithereens.

lol there you go underestimating Logan again and overestimating capt.

Logan gotten out of some serous traps

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