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ahahha same thing with me! Lost is the worst show! i mean wats with the polar bear! and yeah who DOES she like? i hate sawyer but Jack annoys me like crazy!
I'm not being hostile to you Kate. If I was, trust me, you'd know.
It's just that you happen to post stuff that I completely disagree with or find disrespectful. What else can I say? I'm a blunt person, and I'm not going to try to make things syrupy to protect feelings or make nice.
If I think you're rude, I'll call you on it. If I think you're disrespectful, I'll call you on it.
And when I say 'you', I mean everyone who isn't me. I wasn't very nice to what's her name that tried to accuse Pirates life of being a pervert, and if she/he had continued with her non-sense I would've gotten extremely rude, but luckily for all of us, it stopped posting.
My behavior is always the same...if I think we can carry on an interesting and fun convo, I'll go for it. If I think you're being a ninny, I generally let you know. I'm the same here as I am in other forums, including ones that have nothing to do with PotC.
allright mate, though if we're on the subject of rude, the kate-bashing post you made the other night didn't exactly make me smile.
i respect people who are honest, but on this forum, it makes me sad when we cant laugh and have a good time... when we get too intense. lol. kumbaya.
i was thinking about something today--- the whole pirate concept is so big right now--- Lost sort of ties in--- islands and ships, the idea of freedom. it kinda speaks about our cultural. its interesting.
Kate, I didn't bash you. If I was, trust me, you'd know. You just posted something that bothered me, and I called you on it. Simple as that. No bashing. I just want to know where you come up with some of the stuff that you try to use to prove your ship.
I want to get along with everyone also, but I'm not going to be bullied into agreeing with you or abandoning the forum simply because I see things differently. I will call anyone on anything I see as being fishy, stupid, uninformed or an out-right lie.
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i see that you took a survey at your school, but that's just your school. there's a whole lot more people in america than the population of your school!! (no offense) i see your point....but just look here....the majority of people here are J/L shippers. there are a lot of people here, too. some are W/L shippers, but i think the difference is that people in your school may not be like "OMG i am soo obsessed with POTC!! i see everything clearly (the reasons why blank and liz should be together!!) now! here on KMC, we are deeper into the movie. we understand different concepts that other people wouldn't bother looking into.
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because they are not really making it for themselves..they are making it for other people??? I'm sure they wanna get money the most out of all of this...If this was an independent film then I can understand why people wouldnt judge on it..but its a film thats gott please a mass audience
I mean sure they can do what they want with it but even Jerry said that he cant let them have all they want to do with it because they are trying to please the audience not the writers..
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surreal..that not fair to say because you are constantly W/E or N/E shipping all the time...almost 90% of ypur comments are on how it should be either of those two endings. You are heavily focused on that and barely tak about anything else.
WHen I say it sucks that Jack doesnt get her..what annoys me is people are like "oh poor Will..if he doesnt get her thats plain mean"
but what about Jack too? He's fallen for her..she lead him on and if she rejects him, she killed him...isnt that just as mean if not worse?
Both men have the potential to mirror Davy Jones in terms of the kind of man he became...I mean personality..and me dont thinks its Will
If Liz cares for Jack's heart in any way..would she not try to help him? Because I really do think the only part of Jack she may indeed love is his good, compassionate side..and if thats gone..she may be feeling widdowed
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PEOPLE I DIDN'T MEAN TO START AN ARGUEMENT HERE!! I JUST WANTED YOUR HONEST OPINIONS (even though you people pretty much "expressed" yourselves in a way I was trying to avoid) WITHOUT GETTING MAD AT EACH OTHER FOR THEIR OPINIONS, WHICH YOU DID!! Look, people; I just want to know if you AGREE or DISAGREE with me. If you disagree, you don't have to be mad at those who agree, and vice-versa. PLEASE STOP!!
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well, I guess since you work on the set and have seen the script and know how the movie is going to end...I guess we should start listening to you....and in all your post its pretty obvious that it's going to be a Will and Elizabeth ending...so, I guess I'll just wait and see AWE when it comes out on DVD....unless I hear otherwise after people go see it at the theatre...but I won't be there on opening day, that's for sure.
YOu are very adamant about it too...so thanks for letting us know how it's going to go....I know myself and many others on this forum have discovered all the clues and symbolisms and lines and innuendos that point to Jack and lIz but I guess they were just coincidences...I just wish Ted and Terry would never have used the character of Jack as the bump in the road for Will and LIz...cuz now it's ruined the whole trilogy for me....I do not like that they did this to Jack Sparrow...and I'm hoping he can redeem himself in AWE....
And, besides.....Lovely is right...the poll on KTTC was heavily in favor of J/E....the thread dedicated to J/E is so much larger than the one for W/E, Jack and Liz have been nominated as a favorite couple for People's choice...they are tons of videos dedicated to that relationship on youtube compared to Will and Liz...and there are websites dedicated to their pairing....haven't seen one on Will and Liz...anyway......I think there are more people who want to see Jack and liz together...and t and t have no one but themselves to blame for showing a side of Jack Sparrow that the audience fell in love with......they should have left well enough alone....WHY DID THEY HAVE TO MAKE JACK AND LIZ KISS (* yes, rouge i'm yelling)....they should have left that out of the movie...she should have used the sword instead as was originally intended.....
Well, sorry I'm sad about this Pirates Life Fo....but thats just the way many, many feel
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I am...I think it will only do as good as POTC 1 .....I still think the reason DMC did as well as it did was because the people that did go back to see it over and over were intrigued by what was developing between Jack and Liz.....they wanted to see the kiss.....the conversations.....the development of the characters.....I know that's why I went back 5 times to see it...
And someone mentioned (Kate I believe) about not caring about seeing Will's history...ditto......I can't help it. I am being honest here, I could honestly care less about Will....I've never been a fan of his...I guess cuz since POTC 1 I've always been a Jack fan and believe me, I was a J/E shipper even during POTC 1.....I am a historical romance junkie and to me...everything about Jack and liz's relationship jumped out to me as being the one that T and T should have developed.....the anitclimatic kiss between Will and Liz at the end of POTC 1...ugghhh...
my heart actually skipped a beat when Jack says "Elizabeth, darling, it would have never worked between us, I'm sorry"...the first time I saw it...I was like woaahhh.....okay, come on Elizabeth, run after Jack....he's the man for you..he's the Pirate, not Will....I hated that line when Swann says "after all, he's only a blacksmith." and Liz says, "No, he's a Pirate".....the funny thing is, as movie 2 opens we learn that Will still is not in favor of being a Pirate...he hates being called a Pirate....I don't know...I'm talking in circles I know....can anyone relate????
Believe me, I wish I wasn't this attached to the J/L relationship...but T and T did this when they decided to act upon that chemistry in DMC...and it's left a large part of the audience hungry for more....because it's what people dream about..it's fantasy...it's forbidden love...it's hot, passionate...the love between Will and Liz..that's everyday love...the kind that's nice and sweet....but not very enduring....this is only my opinion....just venting that's all..
So, that's it? Is JE offcially dead? It's gonna be a WE ending for sure??
Well, if that's the case I wait until people have seen AWE and I know how nausiating the WE is, before I go see it....I'm sensing a "Elizabeth becomes Mrs FishFace and sail with Will on TFD" ending I'm seriously annoyed by now...
Did I expect a WE ending: Yeah,
Did I hope for a (implied)JE ending: Hell Yes
Am I crushed it will be WE: No, but ekstreamly annoyed and pissed
Will I see AWE as much as I did DMC: Probably not...depends on the amount of WE(gag)and capt Jack...
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Yeah, I tend to agree they will miss an opportunity if they go W/E. Of course, I believe people are packing up and going home before the game's over. You can know all the secrets, read the script, talk to the writers, whatever, but so much depends on what is actually shown on the screen...how the actors express themselves, what the camera is looking at. Those two things alone could certainly imply a J/E ending.
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Oh and by the way...the only reason I went out and bought the DVD for Pirates of the Caribbean after seeing it when I rented it...was one reason...Captain Jack Sparrow.....it had nothing to do with Will and Elizabeth.....in fact, I thought their relationship was nauseating, but that's just me.........the only reason I went to see DMC in the theatres was because Keira said at the premiere that she gets to kiss Johnny...and I was like.."WHAT?" that's what i've been secretly hoping for since movie 1.....and then I became obsessed with DMC after I saw it and saw the magical chemistry between jack and liz....and the great scenes in the movie...definitely not the dice game (I hated that part of the movie, to be honest).....so that's how I find myself here today....a desperate J/E fan.....someone who is angry that they took the great Captain Jack Sparrow....developed him into a deep and intriguing character beyond the rogue we fell in love with in POTC and then leaving him out to dry...a victim of unrequited love....don't like it one bit
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And Willo even TnT said Captain Jack Sparrow is exactly as they wrote him, but the way JD played CJS was not at all what they had envisioned
or expected.
It's just like in these threads. Ppl say something and because you cannot see them or tell by the inflection in their voice, someone becomes offended.
I still think we will like the outcome and I am not giving up and I will be there on opening day.
My passion is not just J/E in DMC, but JD and that roguish smile and the sexy way he moves. I still say he has courtly movements and mannerisms. But, don't get me wrong, I would love to see the fairytale ending of J/E.
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HENRY!!!!
Nov 16th, 2006 04:33 AM
I wasn't very nice to what's her name that tried to accuse Pirates life of being a pervert, and if she/he had continued with her non-sense I would've gotten extremely rude, but luckily for all of us, it stopped posting.
. Magnificent!!! That is all I have to say about your post.
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