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Metalmanx
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Originally posted by ThePittman
Dropping a 3000 ton building on Colossus is only going to stop him for a second? It will take a while for him to dig out; hell Gambit did it to Juggernaut and took him awhile to dig out. Knocking him out with a concussion grenade will count as a win.


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Yeah - I support your enthusiasm here, but I have to say, just slowing Colossus down doesn't count to me as a win, either. It just doesn't seem to me that Deadpool can't do enough damage to Colossus.

Colossus only has to tag Deadpool, and DP is down - whether he recovers or not doesn't matter. Pietro can take anything Deadpool can throw at him, apparantly, and keep on coming - he's like a moving wall.

DP doesn't do mental attacks (his distracting chatter doesn't count) and he isn't a planner like the Bat - he's more of an improviser, a fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants kinda guy.

And in this instance he flies into a wall...

Colossus gets my vote, which I don't mind, actually - in fact, I'm happy to say that I think he deserves this win!


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Anyone who says that Colossus can't beat deadpool is also saying that He can't beat the rhino without using a can of Pym Particles... I say this as an avid Deadpool lover.


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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I think you're referring to Ultimate Colossus.


Which I find odd because he HAD to breathe underwater in order to save that submarine...


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Which I find odd because he HAD to breathe underwater in order to save that submarine...


Ult. Colossus doesn't need to breathe either.


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Originally posted by ThePittman
Dropping a 3000 ton building on Colossus is only going to stop him for a second? It will take a while for him to dig out; hell Gambit did it to Juggernaut and took him awhile to dig out. Knocking him out with a concussion grenade will count as a win.


Pittman, i apperciate your creativity and extra thinking as far as this fight is concerned, but honestly, what you said in this post is a huge stretch

for one, having a glue truck conveniantly on stand by would require domino like luck, and second of all dropping a 3000 ton building on colossus requires alot of stupidity on colossus'es part and a backpack full of strageticly placed C4, two things that arent in place here

as much as i love deadpool, the only thing im confident in here is his ability to escape defeat


put them in a setting with no exit points, and deadpool really cant do anyhting to colossus


as much as i LOVE deadpool, this thread is a tad long for such an obvious victory

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I’m sorry, I like Colossus but dropping a 3000 ton building on him will stop him, won’t kill him but it will stop him for awhile. I’m not sure what you mean about the Shaw thing and him doing it to himself, if he can box his own ears and knock himself out what is the difference?

Also let me make a few things clear because most of you seem to think that I think that DP can kill Colossus and that is just false, I have never said that he could. In H2H Colossus is way out matched and unless it is a lucky shot will never land a blow on DP.
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Pittman, i apperciate your creativity and extra thinking as far as this fight is concerned, but honestly, what you said in this post is a huge stretch

for one, having a glue truck conveniantly on stand by would require domino like luck, and second of all dropping a 3000 ton building on colossus requires alot of stupidity on colossus'es part and a backpack full of strageticly placed C4, two things that arent in place here

as much as i love deadpool, the only thing im confident in here is his ability to escape defeat


put them in a setting with no exit points, and deadpool really cant do anyhting to colossus


as much as i LOVE deadpool, this thread is a tad long for such an obvious victory
I don’t think it is that far of a stretch, all the setup was is that it took place in the street which could mean anything from a rural town to NYC. Also I’m not taking about dropping a fully constructed building but steel framed one such as the one which Gambit dropped on Juggernaut with only 3 cards. As I have said that if DP doesn’t have access to these types of things then he is screwed but being creative is part of what DP does.


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Originally posted by ThePittman
I’m sorry, I like Colossus but dropping a 3000 ton building on him will stop him, won’t kill him but it will stop him for awhile. I’m not sure what you mean about the Shaw thing and him doing it to himself, if he can box his own ears and knock himself out what is the difference?

Also let me make a few things clear because most of you seem to think that I think that DP can kill Colossus and that is just false, I have never said that he could. In H2H Colossus is way out matched and unless it is a lucky shot will never land a blow on DP.
I don’t think it is that far of a stretch, all the setup was is that it took place in the street which could mean anything from a rural town to NYC. Also I’m not taking about dropping a fully constructed building but steel framed one such as the one which Gambit dropped on Juggernaut with only 3 cards. As I have said that if DP doesn’t have access to these types of things then he is screwed but being creative is part of what DP does.


I agree about the dodgeing part

hes going to have alot of trouble hitting DP
and to add, contrary to what most people might think, DP can take a few blows from colossus (considering its not a direct blow to the head)

on the other hand, DP is at a severe disadvantage because all of the random things that COULD happen (such as the building snceario) are extrmely unlikely to be successful, or even stop colossus

becuase trapping colossus under a pile of rubble isint really a win, especially considering it would be seconds at most before colossus bursts out, angrier than ever


the odds are overall against DP, and by that measure, ide be inclined to give it to colossus

Oh,
as for the sebastien shaw thing, i think what the guy ment was taht colossus pounded sebastien shaw (who absorbs kinetic energy) and sebastien clapped it all back into his head, so in essense colossus gave him all that energy which was inturn used against him

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I can not see Colossus getting out in seconds from a building dropping on him, a house or a small office building but thousands of tons of steel I can’t see it. As for trapping someone as a win I see that as being valid as the same reason Iceman freezing someone in a block of ice or Spider-Man webbing someone up each have been used as a win.


As for the boxing of the ears, even if it was added the strength of Colossus to Shaw with the hit, it is not the impact of the hit that really causes the damage in that type of attach but the air pressure on the inner ear. If it was the physical damage of the blow like punching him in the face that knocked him out that would be different but since it was a boxing ear strike that would lead me to believe that caused the knock out.


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The building idea could be possible and god knows that DP carries enough ammunition and explosives on him to cover a small army. I do agree with Pittmann though, I really don't see Colossus in mere seconds breaking out of thousands of pounds of building rubble, breaking out? Yes. Immediately? Nope...

Even still though it doesn't give DP enough of advantage to take a majority at all...

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Heres what im saying

Dropping a building on colossus is a HUGE stretch because buildings dont colapse in miliseconds, if colossus even has moderate intelligence he will put two and two together
from either seeing the building coming crashing down (considering its even falling in his direction) and IF, he is caught under some rubble, its also a bit stretchy to say that enough weight will be on top of him to keep him pinned for a significant ammount of time. It MIGHT, happen, but its really pushin it.

That point aside
(back to the sebastien shaw thing)
He did "clap" his head, but it was more like he just did it, and with enough force that it KO'ed colossus. I dont think it had much to do with aerodynamics and ear wind tunnleism
and stuff

but thats how he happend to hit him

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Dropping a building on colossus is a HUGE stretch because buildings dont colapse in miliseconds
They do in comics stick out tongue



OK, he says "Bodyslide by two" and takes him to Cable and let's him beat the crap out of him while DP sits back and has some milk and cookies. wink


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Arg. Okay. Listen up.

First, the reason I said "Shaw" like that is because it wasn't Shaw. It was all in Colossus's mind. Colossus LITERALLY boxed his own ears.

Second, dropping a building on Colossus would do nothing but just delay the fight. It won't knock him out (as he's taken more punishment than that before) and he'll be out pretty quickly.

Third. What the hell? When did Deadpool gain the ability to demolish skyscrapers? Even with grenades (concussive or not), he has no chance of that. Even with all of the gear that he USUALLY CARRIES with him isn't anywhere near enough firepower to do such a thing.

Colossus wins this, because he has the MUCH better chance of winning vs. Deadpool's 0% chance of winning.


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Originally posted by Metalmanx
Arg. Okay. Listen up.

First, the reason I said "Shaw" like that is because it wasn't Shaw. It was all in Colossus's mind. Colossus LITERALLY boxed his own ears.
Didn’t you read my post? If it was the blow that caused the damage to knock him out that is different than “boxing” someone’s ears. It doesn’t matter if it was Colossus or Shaw doing it if the effect of boxing the ears will knock them out because what does the damage in that attack is the air pressure on the inner ear. If Colossus can box his own ear that means that is a weakness. The difference would be if it was all in his head and because he boxed his own ears he thinks he should be knocked out.

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Second, dropping a building on Colossus would do nothing but just delay the fight. It won't knock him out (as he's taken more punishment than that before) and he'll be out pretty quickly.
Again I never, and I quote NEVER said that it will kill him or knock him out but trap him. Let’s just say that 3000 tons was on him, how is a 100 ton strength going to get out of that quickly? A long delay of a fight is just as good as winning as my example with Iceman and Spider-Man.

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Third. What the hell? When did Deadpool gain the ability to demolish skyscrapers? Even with grenades (concussive or not), he has no chance of that. Even with all of the gear that he USUALLY CARRIES with him isn't anywhere near enough firepower to do such a thing.
Was I ever talking about a skyscraper, no but the steel frame work of a good size building, can that be dropped with several grenades yes, as with the example of Gambit doing it with just 3 cards. His card explosions are not that much more powerful than a grenade.

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Colossus wins this, because he has the MUCH better chance of winning vs. Deadpool's 0% chance of winning.
Let go with that both are fighting to the best of their abilities that mean DP can’t hurt Colossus and Colossus can’t touch DP so that would be a stalemate.


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Didn’t you read my post? If it was the blow that caused the damage to knock him out that is different than “boxing” someone’s ears. It doesn’t matter if it was Colossus or Shaw doing it if the effect of boxing the ears will knock them out because what does the damage in that attack is the air pressure on the inner ear. If Colossus can box his own ear that means that is a weakness. The difference would be if it was all in his head and because he boxed his own ears he thinks he should be knocked out.

Again I never, and I quote NEVER said that it will kill him or knock him out but trap him. Let’s just say that 3000 tons was on him, how is a 100 ton strength going to get out of that quickly? A long delay of a fight is just as good as winning as my example with Iceman and Spider-Man.

Was I ever talking about a skyscraper, no but the steel frame work of a good size building, can that be dropped with several grenades yes, as with the example of Gambit doing it with just 3 cards. His card explosions are not that much more powerful than a grenade.

Let go with that both are fighting to the best of their abilities that mean DP can’t hurt Colossus and Colossus can’t touch DP so that would be a stalemate.
i understand what you are saying, as i was saying it at first.....it'd be REAALLY hard for Colossus to catch DP.....and even if he did he wouldn't do MUCH damage before DP dislocates his own arms to get out.......

at best it's
2/10 For Colossus
.3/10 For DP


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Cassandra Nova knocked Colossus out of a psionic attack. There was no physical force involved.

Does DP have one of those? Didn't think so.


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Man
people (includeing myself) really love deadpool
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and it is pertty clear in this thread


colossus will never catch deadpool!!!!!
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