I agree her downfall is speed and distance, which is why I gave her all her items, which one of them is the sandals of Hermes, with these she has instant transdimensional movement, and teliportation, think of the runner and SS fight.
Yes he has some serious power, as does Diana, you seem to be underestimating Dianas items, they are made by highfathers (which to marvel would be skyfathers, think of Odin with all the pantheons working together to forge items), as well as abstract level beings.
She has instant teliportation which regardless of how fast SS moves, she will always be faster. I related it to the runner because that is how the runner moves, only he did it subconsciously, Diana can do it consciously.
I still don't see the comparison to the runner fight, maybe I am not remembering it correctly. The runner did not have the gem, and therefore didn't have any teleportation during the fight.
Also, I honestly don't know if WW can see light years away, or be aware of where SS is. Can she (asking an honest question)??
[QUOTE=8293131]Originally posted by Stupid Rookie I still don't see the comparison to the runner fight, maybe I am not remembering it correctly. The runner did not have the gem, and therefore didn't have any teleportation during the fight.
Also, I honestly don't know if WW can see light years away, or be aware of where SS is. Can she (asking an honest question)?? [/QUOTE
As far as I know, she does have awareness (how powerful it is I do not know) reaction speed isnt a problem though. I really never looked for those things, I'll try to find some.
The runner didn't do this in his fight with SS did he? He was subconsciously doing it when he had the space gem, like his fight with Thanos, but did he still have it with SS? I don't think he did, and he didn't seem to be teleporting anywhere.
BW, I like you. You're intelligent, write well, and are very passionate, and about a character I like, no less. But no, she is not.....not beating SS. If she can, my universe of comicdom as I know it, will be turned upside down.
But for argument's sake (because I like a good debate), let's give her the benefit of the doubt that the Sandals of Hermes gives the powers you said above, which I'm still not so sure they do. But, even so, she needs to blink herself back into the same dimension SS is, to get a shot off of some kind, and within relative close proximity. All Norrin needs is that split second for to appear, and he is on top of her like a cheap suit on a pimp. Result: Several bloodlusted PC blasts have struck her already before she has even fully appeared in his presence.
I was honestly just thinking that SS's sight (he can see and hear light years away) and his cosmic awareness will provide a hige advantage. He would always know where she was, and she would not know where he was. This is why I was saying that if it happened on Earth it would be a different story.
She should only be stepping in and out of the dimension to dodge attacks, she does it instantly so I don't see how its a problem, she should be using her instant teliportation which doesnt leave a opening for SS to attack her.
Well to be honest, regardless of how powerful his cosmic awareness is said to be, throughout all his comic showings his "cosmic awareness" has never once helped him to know what the opponent will do next in major battles, such as against Thor, or dr. Strange, or Thanos.
So really going by on panel showings, he is not going to know what WW is going to do next, it is like me saying "Because of SS cosmic awareness, he will know what Thor is going to do so he can just beat him easily, yet in every encounter with Thor, SS has lost."
Of cource not superman >Surfer in phycial strength...ill be the first to admit that.
he maybe stronger, but surfer has more overall power.
Superman can't one shot a planet, Surfer can using PC, get it?
I dont see Diana landing blows on surfer if he has his sheilds up.
Surfer bloodlusted has way more options in taking Diana out. he can phase and attack her using TP.
They wont help her if she's getiing mind raped.
True, u may have point there, but still surfer still has more options of attack on his side. Frankey i cant think of one way Diana can take a win from a bloodlusted surfer thats fighting sdmart, and to the best of his abilites.
It is the same as saying, since we have never seen SS turn a major comic character into a block cheese, then he cant do it. It is the same as saying since SS has never speed blitzed a main character, he cant do it.
WW has shown with the sandals she has instant teliportation as well as dimensional travel.
I didn't mean that he would have some sort of pre-cog. I did however mean that he would be able to determine where she was at all times. The addition of Sandals changes things, and makes it harder to detemine how things will end up.
All together this ended up being an interesting debate, good thread, sorry if I was rude earlier. I have to head out.
Well, then the only way for her to really WIN this fight is her for not to blink herself in and out of dimensions. The only way she can get a win is for her to get up close n' personal, and Diana is not afraid to brawl with ANYONE.
This is her downfall in this fight. If she truly bloodlusted, I don't see Diana playing a houdini in and out of dimensions.
I see her like Ali getting ready to fight Foreman.
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