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Mr Master
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Originally posted by Galan007
Elseworld's = a Multiverse in itself.

Mxy destroyed that as well.

That much isn't even a question.

Not according to the On Panel account, but, as you wish.

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Originally posted by Galan007
and that's a feat how?

That again just shows a potential he never realized.

Again,

it shows what TOOK PLACE in the Future.

So it did happen, had he not been stopped.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Point out to me where it was said that Universal Nullification would NOT destroy Jasper's Universe.

Already did.

AGAIN:

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Merlin says,

"I stretched your sanity to the breaking point to prepare you for a Universe (238) Reduced to Idiocy" (the Omniversal Tribune Erased 238)

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Merlin says about Cap. Britain,

"I sent you to a lesser menace (Jaspers 238) and you were Killed"

Merlin says,

"You cannot fail, this version of Japers is too powerful, too dangerous"

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They had to destroy the entire 238 Universe in order to kill 238 Jaspers,

but 616 Jaspers is,

"NOT so easily contained, and if he's not stopped, the OMNI-VERSE will fall into Chaos, and a NEW GOD shall play dice with Matter"

"NOT so easily contained"

How was 238 Jaspers "contained"

The Dimensional Development Court or Omniversal Tribune,

up the 238 Universe, and apparently that's NOT going to work again.

WHY?

Because Jaspers 616 won't allow it, what other reason can there be?

IF they COULD Nullify the Universe around him, they WOULD, making him vulnerable for attack,

but they CAN'T.

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Originally posted by Galan007
All it said was that it wouldn't contain/kill him like his 238 counterpart.

And HOW was Jaspers 238 contained?

Exactly. smile

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
Which to mean means that they could destroy that Universe, but jaspers would still remain, by hopping into another Universe or somesuch.

Jaspers would still remain with no Reality to Warp, making him obsolete.

That would have taken a flick of a switch, send Jubilee over and no more Jaspers,

but I guess they preferred the "Hard Way" ...

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Originally posted by Galan007
So what happens when Mxy destroys that entire Multiverse?

Same thing as before,

Mxy can't erase Jaspers' Universe.

They continue to battle until Jaspers becomes Omniversal in scale.

Then it's on.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Not according to the On Panel account, but, as you wish.

Again,

it shows what TOOK PLACE in the Future.

So it did happen, had he not been stopped.

Already did.

AGAIN:

And HOW was Jaspers 238 contained?

Exactly.

Jaspers would still remain with no Reality to Warp, making him obsolete.

That would have taken a flick of a switch, send Jubilee over and no more Jaspers,

but I guess they preferred the "Hard Way" ...

Same thing as before,

Mxy can't erase Jaspers' Universe.

They continue to battle until Jaspers becomes Omniversal in scale.

Then it's on.

I'm sorry, but this is laughable.

From what you're saying, even a force capable of MULTIVERSAL destruction would be incapable of destroying Jasper's one Universe.

So by that,

Reed /w/ the UN would fail?
LT would fail?
THOTI would fail?
Beyonder would fail?

Just as Mxy would fail?

All of those dudes can destroy a Multiverse on a whim, yet by what you just said...... Jasper's One Universe would be safe from them? laughing out loud

Gotcha!

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Originally posted by Galan007
I'm sorry, but this is laughable.

As laughable as you avoiding the fact that you can't destroy Jaspers' Universe?

I guess so.

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Originally posted by Galan007
From what you're saying, even a force capable of MULTIVERSAL destruction would be incapable of destroying Jasper's one Universe.

So by that,

Reed /w/ the UN would fail?
LT would fail?
THOTI would fail?
Beyonder would fail?

Just as Mxy would fail?

All of those dudes can destroy a Multiverse on a whim, yet by what you just said...... Jasper's One Universe would be safe from them?

Correct.

So lol all you want, you think I give a

...

No Unspace, no Jaspers defeat, simple as that.

I'll claim that with Confidence duke.

laughing

back at cha

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Originally posted by Galan007
Gotcha!

Good.

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Mr Master
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
So by that,

Reed /w/ the UN would fail?
LT would fail?
THOTI would fail?
Beyonder would fail?

Just as Mxy would fail?

All of those dudes can destroy a Multiverse on a whim, yet by what you just said...... Jasper's One Universe would be safe from them?

Oh,

you forgot Merlyn, (who was Energy Matrix empowered)

who had the power to crush the Multiverse,

but hmm, for some reason couldn't.

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Mar 20th, 2007 10:17 PM

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Coming to think of it, it may be that only the HOTI and Jaspers can kill Jaspers. Cool perspective.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
So lol all you want, you think I give a ...

Ahhh, no need to start getting fussy...... It's unbecoming.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
From what you're saying, even a force capable of MULTIVERSAL destruction would be incapable of destroying Jasper's one Universe.

So by that,

Reed /w/ the UN would fail?
LT would fail?
THOTI would fail?
Beyonder would fail?

Just as Mxy would fail?

All of those dudes can destroy a Multiverse on a whim, yet by what you just said...... Jasper's One Universe would be safe from them?

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Correct.

So lol all you want, you think I give a ...

No Unspace, no Jaspers defeat, simple as that.

I'll claim that with Confidence duke.

Holy crap!

I never realized the Universe Jaspers made >> LT, THOTI, Beyonder, and Reed /w/ UN...

He's at the top of the Hierarchy now!!!

I'll have to save this quote for sure.

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Mar 20th, 2007 10:21 PM

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Bentley
Coming to think of it, it may be that only the HOTI and Jaspers can kill Jaspers. Cool perspective.

Hell from what Mr M just said,

(616) MJJ > THOTI

laughing out loud

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Mar 20th, 2007 10:22 PM

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Mar 20th, 2007 10:22 PM

Mr Master
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Bentley
Coming to think of it, it may be that only the HOTI and Jaspers can kill Jaspers. Cool perspective.

Yea,

I think cats are forgetting what kind of power Merlyn was packing.

Merlyn created Otherworld (a Universe) from scrath.

Merlyn created the Starlight Citidel,

it's so vast inside that countless dimensions reside within it.

Merlyn created the Celestail Nullifier, (which is within the Starlight Citidel)

The CN is able to erase ANY Universe in the Omniverse, with the exception of Jaspers' Universe.

Merlyn once allowed Captain Britain to obtain some of the power of the Matrix, and Captain Britain was able to reverse a Multiversal collapse that was taking place.

Yet, Merlyn said Jaspers could not be stopped. smile

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Mar 20th, 2007 10:24 PM

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The HOTI can beat Jaspers because it contains Jaspers which is what ultimately destroyed Jasper the second time around.

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Mar 20th, 2007 10:28 PM

Mr Master
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
Ahhh, no need to start getting fussy...... It's unbecoming.

You're trying to be a wiseass, it's unseemingly, but I'm game.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Holy crap!

I never realized the Universe Jaspers made >> LT, THOTI, Beyonder, and Reed /w/ UN...

He's at the top of the Hierarchy now!!!

Gibberish.

Why are you acting childish?

Again, unseemingly.

Anyways, for the onlookers,

LT and THOTI, Beyonder can defeat Jaspers directly,

but not by erasing his Universe.

Mxy can't do either.

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Originally posted by Galan007
I'll have to safe this quote for sure.

Whatever does it for you potna.

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Mar 20th, 2007 10:29 PM

Mr Master
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
Hell from what Mr M just said,

(616) MJJ > THOTI

Were you bit by a vampire?

You're acting strange.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mr Master
Anyways, for the onlookers,

LT and THOTI, Beyonder can defeat Jaspers directly,

but not by erasing his Universe.

Mxy can't do either.

Well from what you're saying, if Jaspers stayed in his Universe, LT and THOTI would be powerless.

Wow, you'd think Marvel would have written THOTI (God's Power), and LT (2nd only to God)...... To be a bit more powerful.

Hell they can't even destroy Jaspers One Universe.

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Mar 20th, 2007 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by Mr Master

Were you bit by a vampire?

You're acting strange.

Nah,

Just the notion of LT or THOTI being powerless to destroy Jaspers Universe, is ridiculous IMO.

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Mar 20th, 2007 10:34 PM

Mr Master
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For the record, (IMO)

Mxy vs Japsers 616 at his most powerful = Stalemate.

There's nothing Mxy can do to hurt Jaspers,

there's nothing Jaspers can do to hurt Mxy.

big grin

I'm sorry if this causes anyone pain, it's (MO)

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Mar 20th, 2007 10:35 PM

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Well, I already chimed in earlier stating I feel it's a draw unless Mxy can pull a BFR. So long as there is reality MJJ isn't going anywhere regardless of what Mxy does. That's how his powers work. Within reality he's basically an insane omnipotent with complete control over his own form and existence.

The only way to beat him is to take him somewhere where nothing exists. He can only be beaten by BFR per on panel canon material, and as of now he may be beyond that weakness, but it's not stated or depicted, only insinuated by his amalgamation with the Fury.

So, again, I say draw.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
Well from what you're saying, if Jaspers stayed in his Universe, LT and THOTI would be powerless.

Wow, you'd think Marvel would have written THOTI (God's Power), and LT (2nd only to God)...... To be a bit more powerful.

Hell they can't even destroy Jaspers One Universe.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Nah,

Just the notion of LT or THOTI being powerless to destroy Jaspers Universe, is ridiculous IMO.

Then you should've never brought them into the equation.

I never mentioned LT or THOTI, YOU did.

I'm still inside the thread discussing the topic.

Mxy vs Jaspers at his most powerful?

IMO Stalemate.

IMO, if it goes on long enough, Jaspers will eventually become more powerful.

There's NO indication that Jaspers' powers would stop expanding at any point.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by illadelph12
Well, I already chimed in earlier stating I feel it's a draw unless Mxy can pull a BFR. So long as there is reality MJJ isn't going anywhere regardless of what Mxy does. That's how his powers work. Within reality he's basically an insane omnipotent with complete control over his own form and existence.

The only way to beat him is to take him somewhere where nothing exists. He can only be beaten by BFR per on panel canon material, and as of now he may be beyond that weakness, but it's not stated or depicted, only insinuated by his amalgamation with the Fury.

So, again, I say draw.

I agree with these facts.

btw,

if Jaspers has Fury's specialized teleportation capabilities,

even Un-Space would be a non-factor.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Then you should've never brought them into the equation.

I never mentioned LT or THOTI, YOU did.

I'm still inside the thread discussing the topic.

Well I simply used a logic of yours...

And it was very surprising that you think, LT and THOTI would have been incapable of destroying Jasper's Universe.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mr Master
Mxy vs Jaspers at his most powerful?

IMO Stalemate.

IMO, if it goes on long enough, Jaspers will eventually become more powerful.

There's NO indication that Jaspers' powers would stop expanding at any point.

Mxy has never been stated to have a limit either, but does that mean I can use undefined potential as a feat?

Whats happened on panel is all I'm going by,

and on panel jaspers only warped one Universe, while Mxy warped and destroyed Multiverses.

I know you like Marvel more then DC but come on...

All you ever bring up is panel evidence, until you get into a thread like this, then a characters potential counts as fact.

I don't get it.

Anyhoo, you're entitled to your own opinion. smile

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Mar 20th, 2007 10:44 PM

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
Well I simply used a logic of yours...

???

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
And it was very surprising that you think, LT and THOTI would have been incapable of destroying Jasper's Universe.

That's because LT and THOTI would crush Jaspers, not jut the Universe.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy has never been stated to have a limit either, but does that mean I can use undefined potential as a feat?

I'm not interested in other's specifics,

What I do know is that it's in Jaspers' Power Set, for it to GROW!

That's his power. (NOT speculation)

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"at an exponentially increasing rate"

This means as it grows, it expands faster and faster and faster ...

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Originally posted by Galan007
Whats happened on panel is all I'm going by,

and on panel jaspers only warped one Universe, while Mxy warped and destroyed Multiverses.

Jaspers could NOT be stopped by a being that Created a Universe, created a Castle with more Dimensions within this Universe, created a weapon that can erase any Universe in the Omniverse, has manipulated major events across Marvel and allowed Captain Britain & Excalibur to obtain the Power to Reverse a Multiversal Collapse while it took place.

Merlyn.

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Originally posted by Galan007
I know you like Marvel more then DC but come on...

All you ever bring up is panel evidence, until you get into a thread like this, then a characters potential counts as fact.

I don't get it.

Again, it's in the character's Power Set, it's NOT potential, it WILL happen given the time.

Cobweb peers into the Future and see's an unchecked Jaspers:

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I see a Universe eaten alive by Chaos, and ANOTHER Universe, and ANOTHER, like Dominos, Tumbling ...

I see the Future"

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"And it is Cancelled"

Merlin says,

"You cannot fail, this version of Japers is too powerful, too dangerous"
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They had to destroy the entire 238 Universe in order to kill 238 Jaspers,

but 616 Jaspers is

"NOT so easily contained, and if he's not stopped,

the OMNI-VERSE will fall into Chaos,

and a NEW GOD shall play dice with Matter"

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Originally posted by Galan007
Anyhoo, you're entitled to your own opinion.

As you are, which is why I dind't discount anything you posted, I debated.

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