Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Space M ummy
Infinity gauntlet is far, far more versatile than the spear. no contest. Space gem guarantees that thanos would be too fast to hit, Time gem could age supes a million years in a nanosecond, killing him instantly, mind gem turns supes into a vegetable, power gem can generate universe destroying blasts....there really isn't much you CANT do with it.
and range isn't an issue. thanos could be 1000 light years away and still use it.
in contrast, the spear...uh..could stab you.
the gauntlet also isn't limited to 616...it doesn't work in DC, but DOES work in the ultraverse, which was a totally different continuity IIRC. So using that as a gauge of which is more powerful isn't totally accurate.
Why did you quote my post just to say the IG takes this?
I've already said that a few times now.
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May 10th, 2007 11:47 PM
illadelph
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quote: Yeah, it has been used to summon things like Norse Valkyries to do battle with the Spear-holder's enemies, but it's mainly been used as.... well........ a Spear.
A Roman spear that killed Jesus yet can summon Valkyries and bring about Ragnarok?
Is there a connection here I'm not aware of? Why does a Christian artifact seem to have overly Norse abilities?
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May 10th, 2007 11:51 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by illadelph12
A Roman spear that killed Jesus yet can summon Valkyries and bring about Ragnarok?
Is there a connection here I'm not aware of? Why does a Christian artifact seem to have overly Norse abilities?
I don't know...
I've found that odd as well, but I speak the tooth.
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May 10th, 2007 11:55 PM
Space M ummy
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Why did you quote my post just to say the IG takes this?
I've already said that a few times now.
laziness. I meant to hit reply to thread but quoted, instead. my bad
May 11th, 2007 12:08 AM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Space M ummy
laziness. I meant to hit reply to thread but quoted, instead. my bad
Cool.
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May 11th, 2007 02:22 AM
Juntai
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by illadelph12
Um, not to be a dick, but couldn't it just be that since the Spear of Destiny has divine blood on it that it can pierce the Spectre as well being as how Jesus=God=Spectre. It doesn't have to be especially powerful if it's purpose is to simply slay/injure deities.
Example of my point being that Holy Water will destroy Demons but if you threw it on Luke Cage he'll just slap you silly with no effect.
I'm just saying...
It is a Spear so getting stabbed would likely hurt, but it's supernatural abilities might not be exactly universal in application. You might not be able to stab just anything with it with the same effects.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Juntai
The spear of destiny doesn't work against Spectre exclusively. It's that it works against Spectre as well.
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May 11th, 2007 02:33 AM
Juntai
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Also, not sure if it has been mentioned here, but the Spear can also control anyone who is not a normal human. Any meta or superpowered character will immediately fall under the power of the wielder of the spear.
Last time someone got the spear, Wildcat has Jay Garrick/Flash kill him several times, as his only Superpower was having nine lives. Thus could no longer be controlled by the spear.
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May 11th, 2007 11:30 AM
Symmetric Chaos
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
This isn't really a question directed at you, but just a general question for anyone...
Are the Logoz (the power Spectre taps/is a part of), and the Logos , (the room where God's voice can be heard by the likes of Michael), the same thing with a variation in spelling?
I would assume so.
Based on Christian mythos the word if God is roughly God's power and in fact logos can be associated with God's creation itself. Logos means "the word".
The room where one can hear god's words could resonably be called the Logos. And if one were to tap into God's power it could be said that one can control the word of god.
For example in the Preacher's universe the Preacher has so much power due to his voice. He would seem to command the word or logos.
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May 11th, 2007 02:51 PM
shiv
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Thanos IQ and speed of thought humbles Supes,
Spear of Destiny Thrust at Lightspeed would proly be assimilated by Thanos. like when Crawler bonded with the soul sword
May 11th, 2007 03:00 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I would assume so.
Based on Christian mythos the word if God is roughly God's power and in fact logos can be associated with God's creation itself. Logos means "the word".
The room where one can hear god's words could resonably be called the Logos. And if one were to tap into God's power it could be said that one can control the word of god.
Even in the world of comics, that's exactly what the Logos is as well:
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I was just more curious about the variation in spelling...
Why does one version end with a "z" and the other end with an "s"?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
For example in the Preacher's universe the Preacher has so much power due to his voice. He would seem to command the word or logos.
I see what you're saying.
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May 11th, 2007 03:03 PM
Astner
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Well they wanted to seem original so they replaced the s with an z
Or writers have no idea how it's spelled.
May 11th, 2007 03:16 PM
Symmetric Chaos
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
I was just more curious about the variation in spelling...
Why does one version end with a "z" and the other end with an "s"?
Typo? Or maybe someone misread Logos because of the font used and thought the S was a Z.
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May 11th, 2007 03:22 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Typo? Or maybe someone misread Logos because of the font used and thought the S was a Z.
Well that could have been what originally happened, but in the Spectre comics it consistently ends with a Z.
Any other time I've seen that word (even in actual texts), it ends with an S...
So it got me wondering if they were the exact same thing?
I assume they are, but I'm not 100% sure...
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May 11th, 2007 03:27 PM
Symmetric Chaos
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Probably artistic/poetic license
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May 11th, 2007 03:28 PM
Juntai
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It was also by decree of The Word that Micheal bonded the Logoz to the fallen angel's form to make The Spectre.
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May 11th, 2007 03:36 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Juntai
It was also by decree of The Word that Micheal bonded the Logoz to the fallen angel's form to make The Spectre.
Yo Jun...
Do you think the LogoS, and the LogoZ are the exact same thing.... With a variation in spelling?
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May 11th, 2007 03:40 PM
Juntai
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Yo Jun...
Do you think the LogoS, and the LogoZ are the exact same thing.... With a variation in spelling?
Seems logical as both are pieces of God, however I don't agree with comparing it to anything in the Lucifer series, as DC doesn't acknowledge Vertigo work, and doesn't seem to be in continuity.
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May 11th, 2007 04:00 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Juntai
Seems logical as both are pieces of God, however I don't agree with comparing it to anything in the Lucifer series, as DC doesn't acknowledge Vertigo work, and doesn't seem to be in continuity.
The Lucifer scan was just an example of how I personally have always heard/seen the Logos in other comics or texts.
The Logoz and Logos seems to be the same, but I'm not sure.
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May 11th, 2007 04:05 PM
kevdude
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I'd say they are the same just some writers use Z and some use S. And the Spear never killed Jesus, he was already dead, the soldiers just wanted to make sure he was dead. The Spears power comes from Christs blood, someday Hitlers evil will lift and will return to how it was before. Hard to say who wins
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May 13th, 2007 06:39 AM
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