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Originally posted by Badabing
Mr. Master, fangirl and Air Legend and leonheartmm, you all have been in several reports today. I don't care who started what but this needs to stop.

I did not insult anyone today. I made sure of it.

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Originally posted by fangirl101
I did not insult anyone today. I made sure of it.
This isn't a debate. Read my post. Nobody said "insult". This is your final chance to drop it. Thanks.


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Originally posted by Badabing

Mr. Master, you all have been in several reports today.

On the reals, I think you should review threads before throwing names around.

I haven't insulted/disrespected/ one person, (not even sarcasm/or snide wit)
I'm even tolerating extreme intransigence, surpassing that of Nvr.

If I get reported
cause a cat feels stupid from the insurmountable amount of evidence I post,
which he can't in any way counter,
that's not my problem.

But the bottom line is:

I don't enjoy my name being flung when I've done nothing wrong.
That ain't right.
I'm debating over here, whoever is offended by on panel proof,
should step out, or mind their own.


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Originally posted by Mr Master
On the reals, I think you should review threads before throwing names around.

I haven't insulted one person,
I'm even tolerating extreme intransigence, surpassing that of Nvr.

If I get reported
cause a cat feels stupid from the insurmountable amount of evidence I post,
which he can't in any way counter,
that's not my problem.

But the bottom line is:

I don't enjoy my name being flung when I've done nothing wrong.
That ain't right.
I'm debating over here, whoever is offended by on panel proof,
should step out, or mind their own.
I reviewed the thread and the reports. We've had this discussion before. This isn't a debate. Let it drop before it becomes more than what it is. Thanks.


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Good call on the edit. If you have questions then PM me.


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Originally posted by Badabing
Good call on the edit. If you have questions then PM me.
lol that was a cloooose one. big grin

it wasn't anything bad or provocative, but i don't want to be made an axample of.


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
lol that was a cloooose one. big grin

it wasn't anything bad or provocative, but i don't want to be made an axample of.
Oh, I have something planned for you......












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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
This wasn't only adressed to Mr Master.

Your blabbering doesn't deserve any kind of attention and unless you actually bring consistent arguments, that are actually worth my time, you will be ignored.
I was just curious about your viewpoint is all. I guess you dont feel you to have to explain it. Concession accepted.


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Originally posted by kevdude
Did Thanos go beyond and talk to God or a part of him? Thanos w/thotu never did that on panel and of course TOAA not fixing a flaw and needing Thanos to fix it is quite ridiculous, also seeing how the Living Tribunal is suppose to be the supreme power next to TOAA/God he should have been the one that was called on to "fix" the flaw but wasn't, and showing him not to be the one which started Destiny's wheel a wheel alpha and omega spin on, it spins on TOAA/God not LT... If you except the End to be canon TOAA would not be supreme seeing how could he not fix a flaw?? Thanos never went beyond time and everything something The Spectre DID on panel and was shown by the Uni-friend what was like to be The Source/God and could only take it for a few seconds cause he's only a limited being, being shown what was the infinite. Thanos still loses wink

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Huh? It was stated that Thanos was god by Starlin himself. How many times did we see Lucifer and his superior talk about how he was shaped by external forces.

Darkseid handled stealing the Sources power just fine. Spectre and his host couldnt handle being one with the source.

Spectre has zero feats to back him up and couldnt grasp being god for more than a few moments it seems.

Thanos wins. Feats,writer statements all add up to him being supreme.


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Originally posted by Badabing
Mr. Master, fangirl and Air Legend and leonheartmm, you all have been in several reports today. I don't care who started what but this needs to stop.

heh. I was reported? lulz. for what?


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Originally posted by Mr Master
Handled.


laughing

These Two scans pertain to the same incident.

His second scan is from the issue where Thanos first became THOTI,
Thanos clearly states the reason WHY he "did not sense this meeting" ...

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"So engrossed was I, in my NEW FOUND Omnipotence
that I did not sense this fateful meeting
"


His second scan pertains is from the next issue,
where Thanos is simply re-reating (in other words) what he already said.

Which was:

"So engrossed was I, in my NEW FOUND Omnipotence
that I did not sense this fateful meeting
"

That "fateful meeting" was "the Universe rallying against" Thanos.



Nice try.
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Originally posted by Mr Master
I see you mis-read that entirely.

I know who Joey is, thanx, but evidently you do not.

You went and tried you're darnest to find something,
anything to post and make an attempt at contradicting On Panel evidence,
confirmed in official Marvel Handbooks.

laughing

Anywho, check out the truth yall:

Joe NEVER said that the Marvel Universe is officially not referring to all Universes,
that's an complete fallacy, and I'm not surprised.

Joe said he hates the FACT! ...
that Marvel deals with all these #s, (like 616 and so on)
so INTERNALLY (between themselves obviously)
they refer to it as the Marvel Universe,
the Ultimate Universe and "everything else."


If Joe really meant in an official sense,
he would be contradicting the entire Marvel make-up,
and I'm positive he's not going to do that.

Which is exactly why he added: "INTERNALLY!" smile


BTW. The title of the story wasn't Marvel Universe the End,

it was ... The END: Marvel

(Cover of #1)

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The END of Marvel itself:

..................................................................................


What the hell ?

Joe flat out stated that those who actually write the comics don't reffer to the Marvel Universe as the whole Marvel (including the Ultimate line etc) but just a part of the totality.

You want to go on this the logical way ?

Okay then, explain to me then why those who were summoned to fight Thanos w/HOTU were only from the prime Multiverse ? Hell, they needed all the help they could get, and since even Hank Pym and such were there, it was obvious that pretty much anybody who could fight was present . Why weren't the Ultimates there ? Why no other beings from outside the prime Marvel Multiverse ?

It's obvious that this story didn't involve anything beyond the Multiverse and any objective poster who's actually read the story would realize that.

The title of the story wasn’t Marvel Universe: The End ? Oh really ?

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Originally posted by Mr Master
..................................................................................

"How do you call this again? Oh yeah, argument destroyed"


Actually, since we're on the subject,
let me tear up your argument further with ON Panel proof.

Thanos became One with the entire Marvel Universe: (Omniverse)

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"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

................................................................................


And it was "Omni-Reality" as in all other UniverseS included:


The PROOF:

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"I was a grain of sand in a Distant Future"


Thanos was connected to other TimelineS (UniverseS) evidently.

This is further proof Thanos is talking about everything ... as in "Everything"

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"I was Everything"


Ain't that the truth.

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Didn't you remember the part where I asked you not to spam with the same arguments saved in a document ?


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Originally posted by Mr Master
Nice calculated crop.

Let's ignore the fact,
that Thanos on that SAME PAGE was distraught,
overwhelmed with regret over what he had done, (erasing Marvel)
so in this state of turmoil for a moment he was obviously distracted,
but the instant he focused again,
he KNEW exactly where Warlock was plus the details:

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Next Page BEFORE Warlock said a word:

All of a sudden Thanos KNOWS exactly WHERE Warlock was,
with WHO and WHAT he was doing there:

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"You & Gamora were OUTSIDE this reality,
tending Atleza, this Actuality's Cosmic Anchor
"


I thought Thanos was clueless about where Warlcok was?


So just because he was thinking about something else it is an 'excuse' for him not knowing that Warlock would come through the portal ? Good one. laughing out loud

On the same page where he is clueless about Warlock coming through the portal, he says that "Nothing remained".

And you seem to miss my point. It has nothing to do with Thanos deducting/knowing where Warlock was during the time he beat and absorbed the others, it was him not knowing who would be coming through the portal.


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Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, Mistress Death, for whatever reason she survived,
was located OUTSIDE of the Time/Space continuum.

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Thanos was one with Time & Space, (Reality)
this is why Thanos only absorbed Time & Space: (Reality)

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So it's no surprise Thanos told Warlock, "Only you and I remain"

because that was the factual truth.

Only they remained within Time & Space.

..................................................................................

You don't like it, write Marvel a letter, send an email, or make a phone call.


It is stated that Mistress Death exists in a plane outside this reality, so if Thanos didn't knew that she still existed, it means that his Omniscience and Omnipresence isn't all encompassing.

It's really quite simple.


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Originally posted by Mr Master
Handled.


laughing

These Two scans pertain to the same incident.

His second scan is from the issue where Thanos first became THOTI,
Thanos clearly states the reason WHY he "did not sense this meeting" ...

(please log in to view the image)

"So engrossed was I, in my NEW FOUND Omnipotence
that I did not sense this fateful meeting
"


His second scan pertains is from the next issue,
where Thanos is simply re-reating (in other words) what he already said.

Which was:

"So engrossed was I, in my NEW FOUND Omnipotence
that I did not sense this fateful meeting
"

That "fateful meeting" was "the Universe rallying against" Thanos.



Nice try.


Omniscience means knowing what is, has or will be happening at any time. It doesn't have limits, that have already proven, nor is it influenced by any factors such as 'I was so emotional after killing everybody' or 'I was so engrossed in my newfound power that I didn't notice'.

Seriously, what the hell is up with this arguments ? Do you really think that the One Above All's power would be this limited ? erm


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Originally posted by Mr Master
Still ain't sayin anything new dogs.

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No one was able to Fix the Flaw, including "GOD"

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"Reversing the damage became impossible ...

impossible for even he for whom nothing is supposed to be impossible"


Quite simple

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That's the way the story was Written and Created by God/Toaa.

God/Toaa themselves created a story where neither themselves
nor Thanos with ALL of their power could fix the Universe without Remaking it.

God/Toaa can do anything,

including making a rock they can't lift.


It should be pretty obvious that due to the Thanos feats showed during the story,
statements by Eternity/Warlock/King Thor/and omnipotent Thanos,
plus confirmed in his personal Bio,
further corroborated in official Marvel Handbooks,
he WAS actually the God and anybody who actually says that is right.


Actually no, you can't have it both ways. Either Thanos didn't become the embodiement of God thus the reason he couldn't fix the Universe without destroying and recreating it, or the One Above All is also limited thus the limitation on Thanos.

You want to go with your line of reasoning ? Okay, I'll destroy your argument using it. Since you say 'God' limited himself for the purpose of the story (unable to fix the flaw in the Universe) than that means that even if Thanos truly did recive God's power, then it was a limited one's power, thus not the actual embodiement of God's power who should be able to do/know everything.


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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
What the hell ?

Joe flat out stated that those who actually write the comics don't reffer to the Marvel Universe as the whole Marvel (including the Ultimate line etc) but just a part of the totality.

You want to go on this the logical way ?

Okay then, explain to me then why those who were summoned to fight Thanos w/HOTU were only from the prime Multiverse ? Hell, they needed all the help they could get, and since even Hank Pym and such were there, it was obvious that pretty much anybody who could fight was present . Why weren't the Ultimates there ? Why no other beings from outside the prime Marvel Multiverse ?

It's obvious that this story didn't involve anything beyond the Multiverse and any objective poster who's actually read the story would realize that.

The title of the story wasn’t Marvel Universe: The End ? Oh really ?

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