A building on fire.
Supported another collapsing building.
Lifted a spacecraft.
Plus lifting stuff on the surface is not in his realm so it makes perfect sense that most of his feats are underwater.
The three instances I've indicated though are a good indicator of his strength.
Still who has Colossus beaten that put him in Aquaman's league?
Impressive.
But still who has Colossus beaten on the level of Superboy or Triton (DC
version son of Poseidon strong enough to hold Wonder Woman with one hand) or Olympian or Despero.
You think they are on Olympians or Desperos level?
In issue 16 of his PAD series Orin stalemated and then kicked out of Atlantis (out of water Atlantis) a JLA team with WW, MM, Obsidian, Guy Gardner, Ice and Fire.
In issue 48 he fought an entire army of alien conquerors (out of water) and beaten their leader.
Still New X-men is a good feat but has Piotr beaten any character on the level of Olympian or Triton or etc... one one one?
Marvel has handbooks (that mean nothing because both Colossus and say... Wonder Man are listed as class 100 but everybody seems to think that WM would murder Piotr)
DC doesn't have because they don't need to.
Everybody knows that Supes is top dog but if Damage lifts a small building everything will be fine becuase he is not restricted by a category that means nothing.
For example Wonder Girl is what level?
I don't know.
Does anybody know for sure?
If Damage beats her nobody will be shocked.
And after that if Wonder Girl lifts a skyscraper again nobody will be shocked because she is just a very strong character that is not restricted by handbooks or ability bars.
If Tigershark beat Grey Hulk in a fist fight out of water evrybody will say "WTF TS is class 80 but Grey Hulk is 90!!! how the heck this happened !!!!"
the weight of the blackbird shouldn't change since it's a real (now decommissioned) aircraft, the lockheed SR-71 series blackbird. the x-men's type is the RS-150, the only difference is the x-men's has more seating room (up to 3 pilots as apposed to 2 for the SR-71) and a shi'ar combustion engine. the weight is virtually the same as the real thing.
and handbooks are fine, as long as there used in conjunction with current comics since feats and such are subject to change.
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The scans with Juggs show Juggs claiming that he beat Piotr (which actually happened) and then Colossus sneaks up on him and pushes him in a pool or something.
That's not a beating.
The guy with the adamantium I'm not familiar with but t says that that's not Colossus but a conjuration against which Sym has no effect.
Plus when did this guy break adamantium?
Did he break it or used some power to dissolve it?
Thor can't break adamantium as far as I know.
Is this character stronger?
As for Antaeus claiming means little.
Sentry claims to have the power of a million exploding stars yet he can't handle Jim Hammond and a Hellicarier or Wolverine (in Avengers/Defenders)
Plus he claims to have stalemated Galactus.
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