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Oh please don't give me that, I get enough of that from JIA. I could go into my whole story but I did and he gave me the big'ol middle finger.
I'm so sorry that you feel that way, I will pray for you and I wish you the best. Maybe someday I can give you an answer to your question but for now I will just have to pray for you.


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This is because a child doesn't fully understand the word of God and is trying to teach the meaning of his teachings to others.


You can't make that judgement. As i've already stated, there are child prodigies in all fields of teaching...Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry...whatever. So why can't there be in Religious teachings?...There is nothing to say this child doesn't have a fuller understanding of Christianity than 99% of the people in the world.


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You can't make that judgement. As i've already stated, there are child prodigies in all fields of teaching...Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry...whatever. So why can't there be in Religious teachings?...There is nothing to say this child doesn't have a fuller understanding of Christianity than 99% of the people in the world.
I guess you are right and I'm speaking from my personal experiance and understanding of his word. I know that my view has changed over the past few years and it is hard for me to think that other kids could be.


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I guess you are right and I'm speaking from my personal experiance and understanding of his word. I know that my view has changed over the past few years and it is hard for me to think that other kids could be.


Just out of interest do you believe in Transubstantiation and do you genuflect/kneel during the Liturgy of the Eucharist?


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You can't make that judgement. As i've already stated, there are child prodigies in all fields of teaching...Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry...whatever. So why can't there be in Religious teachings?...There is nothing to say this child doesn't have a fuller understanding of Christianity than 99% of the people in the world.


Has the child had sex or known what i means to lust?

Has the child ever had to really work for anything or struggle in a way that causes him to question what he believes?

Has the child been tempted by the outside world while having to live on his own and actually been able to resist?

Stuff like this is important to a full understanding and being able to be a teacher to other members of the congregation.

Scientific and mathematical prodigies are a subject I mentioned first a long time ago in this topic and, obviously, it doesn't apply the same way for a variety of reasons.


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Just out of interest do you believe in Transubstantiation and do you genuflect/kneel during the Liturgy of the Eucharist?
No one in our church kneels during communion and no I do not believe that is actually the blood and body.


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No one in our church kneels during communion and no I do not believe that is actually the blood and body.


So you are not a Roman Catholic...


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So you are not a Roman Catholic...
I'm not sure what you mean, I thought Catholic and Roman Catholic were the same thing.


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I'm not sure what you mean, I thought Catholic and Roman Catholic were the same thing.


One cannot be practising Catholic/Roman Catholic if one does not believe in Transubstantiation.

So yes, while the Church claims a billion faithful it really probably has only a very small number (few million) who are actually in full communion with the Church and therefore Jesus Christ.

You of course are not to blame for this, it is probably the result of bad teaching, personally I wonder what the Jesuits are doing in the States...

Could I perhaps persaude you to believe in transubstantiation so that you can return to full communion with Christ?


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Do you believe in, like, literal transubstantiation moff?


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Do you believe in, like, literal transubstantiation moff?


Ofcourse I do!


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Ofcourse I do!
So the wine is literally the blood of Christ and the wafers are his flesh?


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So the wine is literally the blood of Christ and the wafers are his flesh?


Asked and answered.


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I'm sorry but I don't get it, do you think it transforms into blood when you drink it or that while it is in the cup that it is blood? If you believe it is the blood then it turn into blood but if you don't then it just stays wine? I thought that it is supposed to represent the blood and body not actually be the blood and body.


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I'm sorry but I don't get it, do you think it transforms into blood when you drink it or that while it is in the cup that it is blood? If you believe it is the blood then it turn into blood but if you don't then it just stays wine? I thought that it is supposed to represent the blood and body not actually be the blood and body.


In some Protestant Communities they do not believe in Transubstantiation and so it is just a memorial to the Last Supper therefore, purely symbolic.

Roman Catholics are required to believe that the Blessed Sacraments take on the substance of Jesus' body and blood. That is they become fully his body and blood. However, the accidents (aka appearances) remain bread and wine. So while it looks, feels and appears to be bread and wine to the senses it is actually the blood and body of Christ.


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In some Protestant Communities they do not believe in Transubstantiation and so it is just a memorial to the Last Supper therefore, purely symbolic.

Roman Catholics are required to believe that the Blessed Sacraments take on the substance of Jesus' body and blood. That is they become fully his body and blood. However, the accidents (aka appearances) remain bread and wine. So while it looks, feels and appears to be bread and wine to the senses it is actually the blood and body of Christ.
What is with the accidents part? I'm just trying to understand this because I've never heard of this before, I've gone to some of my wife's masses during the holidays and always understood this just to be symbolic, its hard for me to fathom that even though all your scenes and science tells you that it is wine and bread that it is really blood and flesh.


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In some Protestant Communities they do not believe in Transubstantiation and so it is just a memorial to the Last Supper therefore, purely symbolic.

Roman Catholics are required to believe that the Blessed Sacraments take on the substance of Jesus' body and blood. That is they become fully his body and blood. However, the accidents (aka appearances) remain bread and wine. So while it looks, feels and appears to be bread and wine to the senses it is actually the blood and body of Christ.


Symbolic Cannibalism.


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Symbolic Cannibalism.


No, literal cannibalism with symbolic overtures towards oneness.


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No, literal cannibalism with symbolic overtures towards oneness.


Regardless of how they believe, literal cannibalism would have to consist of real human flesh.


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Regardless of how they believe, literal cannibalism would have to consist of real human flesh.


I was referring to how Gav technically views it.


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