And I guess the fact that Hiller was able to evade the alien fighter in ID4 means nothing? That alien craft was every bit as maneuverable as IM and SS.
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Hiller fared pretty good as he flew through the canyons.
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Yeah, just another gimpage/revision that RJ bought in again due to the rule ammendment he cried so very long and so very hard to get bought in at the time of the Hogwarts Vs Jedi-Clones thread.
He ran out of fuel If he still had fuel, he would have utilized the chute and escaped.
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You were wrong in your assertion that the ID4 alien craft are more maneuverable than IM or SS. Once their shielding went down, they were being taking out (easily too) by F-18s. An F-18 couldn't compete with IM or SS, as an F-22 doesn't.
You're also realizing that they were doing training in Top Gun right. And that none of them were considered "Top Gun" until the end right? Even if you want to count them at the end of the movie, they still do not compare to Vader's piloting skills period. ALl three put together dont equal up to Vader. And to add Iron Man and Starscream is just ****ing overkill. You can say that team Top Gun starts out ahead thats fine. Let them. THat would just be even easier for the other team to bring them down. You also gotta realize the Jets they're using are way outdated to today's technology. Dont say no they're not because I can assure you, that you know nothing about military weaponry or aircraft besides what you read on Wikipedia. Im not trying to start shit but im also just saying dont go there. Back to the point. This thread was just a bad idea. I know you thought it'd be interesting but its not even though you severely gimped them. It's still not. Team Top Gun all die. And that's the end of it.
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See, I can agree with this. This would be factually correct.
Even if we limit SS to just F-22 abilities, he will still outclass them in the fact that he has a much better computer, can maneuver the plane better than any human pilot can because he would remove the inhibitors, and probably has better weapons due to being a Transformer.
However, in the films. As the F-22s approached the city, they would have easily identified all targets and taken them out, before any one in the city, transformers included, could have made visual contact.
StarScream would have taken a high yeild, super missile and been down for the count.
Sabo rounds were affected for their heat. Missiles get much hotter when the explode.
That's why SS may still be used........
maybe....
If he's distracted, the F-22s in the real world, might stand a chance of taking him out.
Okay. I've had 5 PM's from 3 people about this. Let me see if I have this straight:
Sadako says: RJ is not adhering to MVF rule #7 by changing the scenarios of the fight/race in mid-thread.
AC says: Spite.
RJ says: Who would win in this survival race? The humans in their fighter jets, or the other team?
Am I right?
Just to chime in, here is my opinion on the thread, thus far:
All three human pilots are blown to shit. Starscream is an alien robot who can travel through f*cking space. There is no G-Force factor with him, I imagine, since he, apparently, is not affected by inertia. At least, not in the cognizant sense, I presume. Iron Man has superior air agility and some pretty heinous firepower (one lil' rocket blew up a tank and his Uni-beam conquers.), and, personally, I really don't feel the need to even mention the other two contenders.
I would greatly appreciate it if ALL 3 of you (Sadako, AC, and RJ) would respond to this query. Not in PM Land, I mean. Just quote me and post it here.
I got no problem with someone saying this person or that person wins, but when they step in and deliberately start shit, yeah, that aint cool. If they dont like the thread conditions, then why not just ignore it?
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