I thought he was rediculously strong like much stronger then colossus. I remeber he was that grounds power house and that entire group was rediculously powerful.
also during the prison break during the first issue or two or three or four not sure which one spiderman arm got snapped like a twig.
in some cases, though in blunt force trauma he normally realies jsut on durabiity which is normally easily enough to wistand the attack.
from piercing attacks perhaps, blunt force hell no. You do know he originally did not ahve a healing factor when he came out right? I not sure were you got your info, but creed has vast durability and he been stated and shown getting enhancements to his already impressive durability and strength.
Only a single guy did it if not mistaken. were not talking about a fight, were talking about durability, and as I recall a single individual did it, may have been hyde not sure.
really how is that pis? that his harm got snapped by 80 tonner or stronger?
It not haters, we simply don't ignore whats been display consistently. yes becuase we disagree with you, we must all hate spiderman...........Spidermans been getting beat up by humans sicne he came out. Mere peak humans who know how to hit you and were to hit you. Also if a normal human that lifts say 250 pounds can generate the force of a 40 mile an hour car crash imagine how much force say a peak human who lifts a 1000 pounds generates who about 100 times mroe skilled then the guy who created 40 mile hour car crash force. also spiderman been one shotted and two shoted by class 25 tonners as well and thats only two of his rougues venom and carnage, many of his rogues hit not nearly as hard.
ALSO LETS SEE OEN OF THOSES HEAPS OF FEATS THAT ARE FAR GREATER DURABILITY FEAT THEN ANYTHING SABRE-TOOTH DONE
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Dunno who you are talking about, my response was supposed to be to Bueno.
Yea okay, and you're ignoring all the times he fought on after being hit by Venom or Carnage?
This explains nothing. You don't just fight through class 25 or even ****ing class 10 blows, and then get hurt by a human punch. There is NO explanation for it. Just because it happens a lot doesn't make it NOT PIS.
Great, you worked out how much force a normal human can generate (the calculations are way off, but just to keep things simple...), by comparison, a class 10 can exert 8000% more force, and a class 25 can generate 20,000% more.
Can you really pretend to be intelligent and tell me that yup it makes total sense Parker can withstand that amount of force, but then get hurt by a human punch and its NOT PIS? Be careful, your answer may destroy your credibility.
Nope I am not, I am merely not ignoring the many times he been one shotted or two shotted by them. You are the one trying to play the hate card becuase people think street levelers peak humans cna hurt spiderman when they done so consistently sicne his creation.
If it consistently happens it does, and there jsut as many showings for people under class 25 actaully there more showings of it then vice versa.
That does not work however, these's were highly train individuals, the average human does not hit with any closes to that type of force nor would the very untrained and unskilled fighters that are spiderman rougue gallary
Lets go by your logic, based on it Spiderman should have zero chance of even phasing some one like wolverine who consistently and has vastly mroe feats of taking punishment vastly stronger then Spiderman. Which is funny becuase based on your own logic spiderman should not be able to even hope to beat wolverine......interesting no?
easy marvel treats MA'er as a skilled precise blows with great force in a small area also like a a super power.. but not every MA'er can do it just good ones..
for example: caps mini nuke punches... spiderman words not mine.
Right. You're making this about Wolverine beating Spider-man now. What a surprise.
Do you know about Spider-man's rogues gallery?
Like I said, PIS. As long as you can't reconcile the fact that Spider-man can take Class 10 (notice how I keep lowering the class type of blows he has taken just to accommodate you preferring to choose low showings? It doesn't matter here anyway) blows and yet get hurt by Peak Human blows, you have no argument.
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Spider man can take high lvl blows b/c half the the time he rolls with the blows or is only grazed or it is a wide spread area blow.. yes he has also takes straight undiluted blows but it shouldnt be the norm..
his bones and powerset arent significantly altered to allow him such durability.. its comics its called suspension of disbelief...
if i recall Spiderman has broken, his bones taken fractures from various types of attacks... like small falls, punching hard metal... being hit with metal bars,, he has gotten concussions ..
for the same amount of durability feats he "seems" to also have same amount of lower lvl durability feats where it is focus on it not being too superhuman in durability..
just to point out logan has faced a good number of spidey's rogues and has done pretty well he has even done better then the spider at times.
Not at all, my thoughts on who wins is very well documented, and I don't care. I am simply using your own logic and based off your own logic spiderman can't phases wolverine, which is funny seeing as how you gave himthe large majority I recall interesting no?
Yes I do, infact his original villain was a human........yes a human who hurt him many times.
See I dont get this. so becuase it spiderman it pis fpr peak-human to hurt him becuase he foughten class tens and taken there punches correct?
And yet you give Spiderman the vast majority vs wolverine becuase you believe he can KO him?
do you see anything wrong with this?
I mean the worst part of this logic is spiderman started off with his main villain as a human and he got hurt by him over and over. He consistently been hrut by peak-humans. he has almost as many if not as many incidents as humans hurting him as he does of taking class 10 shots or higher.
Wolverine on the other hand started as a class 100 rougue......has consistently taken repeated shots from individuals vastly stronger then spiderman and yes the majority of his feats display him shrugging off blows many times stronger then spiderman could hope to produce.
So by your own logic spiderman should not be able to phase him and infact it would be pis by your very logic and wolverine be default would win on the forum battle? but yet this is not what you have posted a number of times, odd.
i am fully aware of spidey's high end feats in his respect forum i am also fully aware of the spiders norm in comics.. i am afterall a great spiderman fan and me answering your own comments about the spiderman and wolverine in your own response does not make me bias in fact i have even mention on more then one occasion i no longer like Wolverine and his modern representation of the character.
all i did was answer a question and put into context with a character that was previously mention.
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