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darthgoober
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Originally posted by h1a8
His blast on Hulk wasn't blunt force. Its not like a sledge hammer was hitting him. Either it is a regular blast or he is just repelling Hulk's flesh off (almost as radiation from nuclear bombs).

His blast WAS blunt force though because like I said Vector's blast are essentially blasts of concussive force. If you're argueing otherwise, you're pretty much ignoring the nature of Vector's powers. It'd be very similar to someone trying to say that there's no heat in Supes's heat vision.


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
a susstained blast from vector to the top of hulk's head is quiet the feat also, but my main point is hulk's recoupretive abilities that are always on.

here's another more apt one:


as you can see, the hole is gone at the end, and hulk is ready to whip some ass cause of anger


Those scans were already shown here. I rebutted them by saying that it wasn't blunt force trauma to the brain. You know, the area where a character is koed. roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Originally posted by darthgoober
His blast WAS blunt force though because like I said Vector's blast are essentially blasts of concussive force. If you're argueingt otherwise, you're pretty much ignoring the nature of Vector's powers. It'd be very similar to someone trying to say that there's no heat in Supes's heat vision.


I researched Vector's powers. I found that he can create blasts with his powers. He has telekinesis and other stuff he can do.

Mags can create electricity from his magnetic powers.

Also you didn't catch my second argument. Assuming it wasn't a pure blast, Vector still telekinetically was peeling off Hulk's flesh. If I peel off your flesh with my hand or telekinetically how would that be like a sledge hammer hitting you on top of the head? Plus the writer/artist portrayed it to be blast melt off like. This is writer's intentions.

In Summary,

Peeling layers of flesh off someone doesn't equal hitting them in the head with a sledge hammer.

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Originally posted by h1a8
I researched Vector's powers. I found that he can create blasts with his powers. He has telekinesis and other stuff he can do.

Mags can create electricity from his magnetic powers.

Also you didn't catch my second argument. Assuming it wasn't a pure blast, Vector still telekinetically was peeling off Hulk's flesh. If I peel off your flesh with my hand or telekinetically how would that be like a sledge hammer hitting you on top of the head?

In Summary,

Peeling layers of flesh off someone doesn't equal hitting them in the head with a sledge hammer.

All of which is based around concussive force.

That's ASSUMING that it wasn't a pure blast, and even then you're reasoning's off because there's a big difference between peeling away skin/muscle with your hand and what happened there. What was going on between Vector and the Hulk was much more similar to punching someone in the arm hard enough to knock off a portion of skin/muscle than it was to cutting someone's arm and lifting the skin off with your fingers. Again what you're arguing is very similar to someone arguing that a character tanking Supes's heatvision is in no way proof that they're resistant to heat.


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hulk only looked like that cause he has the power to withstand the repulsion and not get entirely blown away. objects don't usually get destroyed by his power unless they resist him, which is pretty much futile


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In a minute? No they don't have that much power to KO him in a minute.


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All of which is based around concussive force.

That's ASSUMING that it wasn't a pure blast, and even then you're reasoning's off because there's a big difference between peeling away skin/muscle with your hand and what happened there. What was going on between Vector and the Hulk was much more similar to punching someone in the arm hard enough to knock off a portion of skin/muscle than it was to cutting someone's arm and lifting the skin off with your fingers. Again what you're arguing is very similar to someone arguing that a character tanking Supes's heatvision is in no way proof that they're resistant to heat.


I disagree. You must provide proof. I have evidence that Vector's powers are also telekinetic as well. He can repel, attract, and block matter. And I have evidence that he can create blasts of energy.

I believe the writer/artist wanted to portray the blast as a melt/peel off effect, not a sledge hammer effect. They would indeed put the effect as a blunt trauma concussive effect in the narration if they felt the drawing is misleading.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk only looked like that cause he has the power to withstand the repulsion and not get entirely blown away. objects don't usually get destroyed by his power unless they resist him, which is pretty much futile
I agree. That is why Hulk's flesh was being peeled off. Someone pushing/repelling you back is not the same as one hitting you with a sledge hammer to go back.

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buddy, vector's power is far worse since it was strong enough to strip hulk's muscles and skin off, think of the constant force being applied to do that. it's like standing under niagra falls

hulk has braced himself many times while being hit, but vector's power pushes you back at the molecular level. when he got juiced up furthar he's repelled reality from all points of his body. no expression


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Ross hurt WWH with a pistol for pete`s sake.
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Originally posted by ankur29
ross shot hulk in the eye with an adamantium


adamantium has the magical ability to cut any matter, so it's an exception


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buddy, vector's power is far worse since it was strong enough to strip hulk's muscles and skin off, think of the constant force being applied to do that. it's like standing under niagra falls

hulk has braced himself many times while being hit, but vector's power pushes you back at the molecular level. when he got juiced up furthar he's repelled reality from all points of his body. no expression


I understand this. Its just it's asinine to believe Vector was causing blunt force trauma to Hulk's brain as if he was being hit by a sledge hammer.

The scan for crying out loud wants the reader to think burn/melt/peel and not sledge hammer hits.

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i'm sure captain america could.. lol

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adamantium has the magical ability to cut any matter, so it's an exception [/B]
Adamantium is not Magic its just indestructible


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I disagree. You must provide proof. I have evidence that Vector's powers are also telekinetic as well. He can repel, attract, and block matter. And I have evidence that he can create blasts of energy.

I believe the writer/artist wanted to portray the blast as a melt/peel off effect, not a sledge hammer effect. They would indeed put the effect as a blunt trauma concussive effect in the narration if they felt the drawing is misleading.

Proof... dude you're asking for proof that Supes's heat vision is hot, I'm not even going to bother. Read some of his stuff and apply common sense.


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Proof... dude you're asking for proof that Supes's heat vision is hot, I'm not even going to bother. Read some of his stuff and apply common sense.
telekinesis and concussion are two different things. It was stated in comics that Superman's hv is hot.

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telekinesis and concussion are two different things. It was stated in comics that Superman's hv is hot.

Again, read some of his stuff and apply common sense. If you can't even do that, there's really no point.


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Originally posted by h1a8
telekinesis and concussion are two different things. It was stated in comics that Superman's hv is hot.
this is irrelevant since nobody but the hulk has actually waded through the power of vector full force, his flesh was being ripped off and whatnot from the sheer friction of the repelling force.

vector hits things with g-forces or something like that in beam form

but to play into this shit a bit, his power could be concussive since it's like a fire hose.... without water, all it wants to do is push you back and the onset of that water slamming against you is indeed a concussive attack. no way around that


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adamantium has the magical ability to cut any matter, so it's an exception


Thing has the magical ability to make Hulkie Boy bleed too.


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Demon Strange already proved that WWH could be on the receiving end of a beatdown.

Strange just stopped because innocent lives would have been lost if he continued.


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