Eh no. I don't see how that interpretaion comes from the text. If taken literally, and I don't see why we wouldn't take it that way unless you have proof, it would mean that a Jedi who mastered Juyo "focus"ed on "physical combat abilty" as "intesely" as a "Sith".
You still have no evidence of it turning darkness into a 'weapon of light' other than speculation.
Notice how I said "form". They are technically of the same form, yet are different variations.
How does common sense dictate this? Afterall, Juyo uses the same emotions of Vaapad, yet doesn't have a super conducting loop. So why does 'weapon of light' get a free pass?
If a Jedi were fighting with the same intensity as a Sith, they would be tapping the dark side (obviously.) And while a Jedi master of Juyo may come "close" to that level of intensity, coming close to the dark side =/= directly channeling it. Simple.
Other than plainly obvious logic, you mean? If a Jedi uses Juyo for good, he is using it as a weapon of the light. Simple.
The superconducting loop is the only discernible difference between Juyo and Vaapad. That said, if Mace were battling an opponent and couldn't channel their own darkness to form the superconducting loop (for whatever reason) then he would essentially just be using Juyo against them. Simple.
Sidenote: Are you getting as bored with this as I am?
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I would agree with you except it doesn't say they are fighting with "Sith intensity" it says the "focus on physical combat ability" with "Sith intesnity". Really I don't see anyother way to take this.
Once again the Mortis Trilogy makes it clear that light=/=good.
“Too much dark or light will be the undoing of life as you know it.”
I'm unsure why you can claim that Juyo channels their own darkness into light but not an opponents. Plus it doesn't make sense that Windu would devlop Vaapad to do the very same thing that Juyo already does.
"I created Vaapad to answer my weakness: it channels my own darkness into a weapon of the light."
Yes... This will probably be my last post on the matter.
No. It says a Jedi "comes close to the Sith intensity of focus on physical combat ability." You're trying to warp that quote to better suit your argument.
Again, a Jedi may come "close" to that level of intensity, but coming close =/= directly channeling the dark side.
Eh, I could be wrong, but that quote appears to be referring to the balance of the force- which literally has nothing to do with what I've been saying.
Again, if a Jedi uses Juyo for good, they are using it as a weapon of the light. Same with Vaapad.
Because no source(s) state that Juyo channels any other inner turmoil aside from its user's, nor have we ever seen it do so. Channeling an opponent's darkness into half of a superconducting loop is a trait inherent only in Vaapad.
Well, it really just comes down to what source you believe to be more canonical, I suppose... Do you believe Mace's comment? Or do you believe a quote from a textbook that all Jedi had to learn upon acceptance into the Order- the fundamental didactic building block of their entire Jedi career?
Out of those two options, I'll side with the latter, personally.
I feel the same way.
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Yea, I can no longer see the J, U, Y, and O keys on my keyboard. I think that is a dead giveaway that I/we have spent WAY too much time in this thread saying the exact same things.
Jul 8th, 2011 01:57 AM
Strawman, much?
