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The Silver Surfer Vs Thor
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zopzop
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Originally posted by Silent Master
You're aware that Surfer isn't the only one that can transmute, right?

Scans? Surfer has done it on the fly.
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Originally posted by Horrificus
"Note to self: Zop, secretly thinks very highly of Quasar." big grin

Well, out of the 2 of us, I am just going to figure you have the most experience with the "Sucking Issue", so I will surrender this to you for now. laughing Get it? Hehe. I slyly interjected a comment into my post that alludes to the fact that you are always, well, you know... "Gobblemphllgrprll!"
Very Funny.

There, you would be blatantly wrong. He has indeed shown his ability to manipulate time.
Actually, I think there are quite a few scans of this in this forum, so I am surprised that you don't know about it.
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Oh Yeah?! mad
No, You!

Actually, since he does not need air, he might just thank Surfer for giving him an indestructible helmet, no?

Yes I do think highly of Quasar vs ENERGY TYPES HE CAN MANIPULATE.

Show me examples of him manipulating time AFTER Immortus supposedly stripped Mjolnir of that ability.


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Silent Master
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IIRC, he's done it against Absorbing-man back in JIM, when Kitty phased him into the ground and I vaguely recall him using it to repair his armor.

I'm sure rage could give you issue numbers.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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He's also turned a pyramid or something into a bunch of trees.


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Originally posted by Silent Master
IIRC, he's done it against Absorbing-man back in JIM, when Kitty phased him into the ground and I vaguely recall him using it to repair his armor.

I'm sure rage could give you issue numbers.

I'm not familiar with the AM incident but for sure he didn't do it vs Kitty. She phased him into the ground and he got out by creating an energy vortex.

How is that anything like manipulating matter on the atomic level?
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The cop states that the ground is bonded to him, IOW Thor had to seperate his molecules from those of the street.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
The cop states that the ground is bonded to him, IOW Thor had to seperate his molecules from those of the street.

The cop knows this how?

Notice the floor beneath him is glassed over. Looks like he just slagged the ground holding him.


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JakeTheBank
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If he wasn't fused to the ground, why would Thor be in pain?


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If he wasn't fused to the ground, why would Thor be in pain?

Because he's being crushed? If he was really fused to the ground. He wouldn't have a lower body. It'dve been destroyed.


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Because he's being crushed? If he was really fused to the ground. He wouldn't have a lower body. It'dve been destroyed.


Crushed by what? Being surrounded by asphalt wouldn't be nearly as painful for someone like Thor as opposed to actually having been fused with the ground.


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Crushed by what? Being surrounded by asphalt wouldn't be nearly as painful for someone like Thor as opposed to actually having been fused with the ground.

Crushed by the hundreds/thousands of pounds of pressure.

If he was really fused into the ground, his entire lower body would be GONE. There would be nothing holding his upper body to anything. He'd just keel over bleeding profusely.

The big giveaway is the fact that the ground beneath him is FUSED into what appears to be glass. He slagged the rock/ground holding him.

This isn't hard.


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Crushed by the hundreds/thousands of pounds of pressure.

If he was really fused into the ground, his entire lower body would be GONE. There would be nothing holding his upper body to anything. He'd just keel over bleeding profusely.

The big giveaway is the fact that the ground beneath him is FUSED into what appears to be glass. He slagged the rock/ground holding him.

This isn't hard.


Really? Hundreds/thousands of pounds of pressure hurting Thor?

The asphalt was fused to his midsection. He still had a lower body to speak of.


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The cop knows this how?

Notice the floor beneath him is glassed over. Looks like he just slagged the ground holding him.


Thor is a cl 100 character, if he was just surrounded by asphalt, he could have easily muscled out.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Really? Hundreds/thousands of pounds of pressure hurting Thor?

The asphalt was fused to his midsection. He still had a lower body to speak of.

Yeah. It was also during this era that Mongoose's poison gas actually affected Thor and Thor was so weakened that he was struggling to lift a barebones skyscraper.

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Thor is a cl 100 character, if he was just surrounded by asphalt, he could have easily muscled out.

Yeah and? Hulk is a CL100 character that has lost to Machine Man and was choked out by a python. It's comic. Sh|t happens.

Now why don't you two explain to me, why the ground beneath his feet is glassed over if he didnt' slag it?

When was the last time matter manip did that?


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Thor for slight majority. Why? Their history speaks for itself. However, by feats and on paper, I'd say SS


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Again, the comic flat out states that the ground is bonded to him.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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In that same era, Thor's average was still enough to do shit like shatter Celestial armor, shatter mountains, cause reverbreations across entire planets, etc. Considering he's easily powered out of tons of rubble before consistently, being surrounded by asphalt would be nothing to him.

Mjolnir unfused Thor from the street and the resulting energies turned the street into glass like substance.


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Again, the comic flat out states that the ground is bonded to him.

That cop is now an expert in how mutant powers work when you phase one object into another? They should hire him over at Xavier's school.
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In that same era, Thor's average was still enough to do shit like shatter Celestial armor, shatter mountains, cause reverbreations across entire planets, etc. Considering he's easily powered out of tons of rubble before consistently, being surrounded by asphalt would be nothing to him.

Mjolnir unfused Thor from the street and the resulting energies turned the street into glass like substance.

Yeah, they are called highs and lows. This was a low for Thor.

Mjolnir slagged the rock encasing Thor. That's what is shown on panel.

Can you imagine if Sersi or SS 'manipulated" matter this way? Their subjects would be burned to ashes.


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That cop is now an expert in how mutant powers work when you phase one object into another? They should hire him over at Xavier's school.


I'll take the word of the Cop over your's.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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That cop is now an expert in how mutant powers work when you phase one object into another? They should hire him over at Xavier's school.

Yeah, they are called highs and lows. This was a low for Thor.

Mjolnir slagged the rock encasing Thor. That's what is shown on panel.

Can you imagine if Sersi or SS 'manipulated" matter this way? Their subjects would be burned to ashes.


He was fused to the ground, which was was what was causing him extreme pain. Not the fact that he was surrounded by asphalt. That doesn't even make sense.

Sersi or SS's matter manipulation abilities have no bearing on this scene.


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I'll take the word of the Cop over your's.

And I'll take what was depicted ON PANEL over some random cops comment.
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He was fused to the ground, which was was what was causing him extreme pain. Not the fact that he was surrounded by asphalt. That doesn't even make sense.

Sersi or SS's matter manipulation abilities have no bearing on this scene.

He was phased INTO the ground. His lower body was being crushed by that pressure.

ON PANEL :
a) He begins to spin Mjlonir around
b) Builds up momentum
c) Energy vortex is created
d) the ground holding him shatters (we literally see debris flying all over the place)
e) the ground is smoldering
f) the ground is glassed over

He superheated the ground and it shattered freeing him. It's right there on panel. How you ignore this is amazing.


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