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Originally posted by BloodRain
Not potent wizards then.

All that it takes to destroy one is that it mist be destroyed both physically and magically (something AK, the fang and sword have in common), with the only other defence being whatever enchantment is protecting it.

Basically if your attack can overcome or bypass the enchantment, and be of high physical and magical strength, the horcrux sill be destroyed.

Remember that even Fiendfyre could destroy one by follow thd above.

Fiendfyre never destroyed a Horcrux in the films. Lie.

Ak can kill a Horcrux in a person. No proof it works on one stored in an artifact though.

What potent wizard destroyed one with their powers in the films ?

Do you always just throw shit and see if it sticks on a wall in a debate.

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Albums did tinker with a Horcrux (one of Tom Riddle's rings), he even wound up using the sword of Gryffindor, and wound up with a half-dead hand as a result.

The curse was going to kill Albus in around a year. There was no way around it.

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No, it cannot. The sword never destroyed any artifacts. No reason to think it would. You need evidence.

The Sage's sword held up to the Master Sword, which destroyed the Twilight Sword. smile

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The Master Sword holds more power inside than the combined host of the Valar, considering it can counter the power of the Triforce. It's magic can also propel huge islands into the air.

Mm, I wouldn't say it's *That* powerful, but even putting it's precise level aside.... it simply is not a sword of utter destruction. Other blades, shields, etc. can defend against it in the game.

It's power is not that sort.

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Fiendfyre never destroyed a Horcrux in the films. Lie.

Ak can kill a Horcrux in a person. No proof it works on one stored in an artifact though.

Fiendfyre did destroy a Horcrux in the book though.

Avada Kedavera only destroyed the Horcrux in Harry because Voldemort was both the one who created it (unintentionally) and then hit Harry with AK. AK isn't able to do the trick on a human Horcrux in any other known circumstances.

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The Sage's sword held up to the Master Sword, which destroyed the Twilight Sword.

So again the sword never destroyed any sword on its own. It did cut through dorfs skin.

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Mm, I wouldn't say it's *That* powerful, but even putting it's precise level aside.... it simply is not a sword of utter destruction. Other blades, shields, etc. can defend against it in the game.

It's power is not that sort.

Completely accurate.

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Mm, I wouldn't say it's *That* powerful, but even putting it's precise level aside.... it simply is not a sword of utter destruction. Other blades, shields, etc. can defend against it in the game.

It's power is not that sort.

You'd be wrong, the sword's cut continent's out of the earth and destroyed magical barriers larger than castles in single strikes, the formation of one such barrier shook the entire country, lol.

It's also the failsafe against the triforce, a planetary+ level power.

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Originally posted by jmoul
Fiendfyre did destroy a Horcrux in the book though.

Avada Kedavera only destroyed the Horcrux in Harry because Voldemort was both the one who created it (unintentionally) and then hit Harry with AK. AK isn't able to do the trick on a human Horcrux in any other known circumstances.

This is the movies version only.

You aren't getting what I am saying. Harry isn't durable like an artifact Horcrux. If you cut his throat he dies.

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The ms can't disable Zant's magic nor Dorfs in combat. The points always escape you.

It can and has done so multiple times. Dead Man's Volley

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The master sword can be blocked but only this attack cannot be attacked. The attack is special not the sword here, sport.

Only this attack, which is done with the sword. Do you really think the Jump Strike and Great Spin are also nonmagical skill maneuvers that have nothing to do with the sword used?

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Both swords cut him but can't destroy each other.

Irrelevant; the Sage's sword is not evil.

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Conclusion both are stronger than Dorfs skin. Undeniable. Destroys your claim that the executioners sword can't cut into him again.

All it means is that the Master Sword can pierce Castle+ durability. The Sage's sword will continue to be irrelevant to everything related to the Triforce of Power and afterwards.

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Basilisk fang has feats of destroying durable magical artifacts. Master sword does not. Can't even break the executioners sword.

It broke the Twilight Blade, or did you forget?

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It can and has done so multiple times. Dead Man's Volley

Only this attack, which is done with the sword. Do you really think the Jump Strike and Great Spin are also nonmagical skill maneuvers that have nothing to do with the sword used?

Irrelevant; the Sage's sword is not evil.

All it means is that the Master Sword can pierce Castle+ durability. The Sage's sword will continue to be irrelevant to everything related to the Triforce of Power and afterwards.

It broke the Twilight Blade, or did you forget?

Zant still uses his magic throughout the battle. Sorry, he doesn't prevent him from doing so.

The skill attack is what grants the ability not the sword. Obvious is obvious.

So the sword only works against evil. laughing out loud

Dorf was evil.

False. It proves boy swords can cut into him. They can't destroy each other. Both swords are more durable than Dorf.

What resistance feats did the twilight sword have ?

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This is the movies version only.

You aren't getting what I am saying. Harry isn't durable like an artifact Horcrux. If you cut his throat he dies.

I do get what you were saying, I'm simply adding to it, saying that, in the case of Voldemort's Horcrux in Harry, the only reason the Horcrux was destroyed by AK at all was because Voldemort was the one who unintentionally created it and then hit it with AK, so this is the only case where AK destroyed a Horcrux that we have been told of.

Harry could have died then and there, but he chose to come back, kill Voldemort, then nail his best friend's sister more than a few times.

Jan 31st, 2014 02:07 AM

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I do get what you were saying, I'm simply adding to it, saying that, in the case of Voldemort's Horcrux in Harry, the only reason the Horcrux was destroyed by AK at all was because Voldemort was the one who unintentionally created it and then hit it with AK, so this is the only case where AK destroyed a Horcrux that we have been told of.

Harry could have died then and there, but he chose to come back, kill Voldemort, then nail his best friend's sister more than a few times.

Yes, Harry was very selfish and horny.

Do you agree the Horcrux is greater than the TP's version of the Master sword ?

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Yes, I do.

I also agree that the Master Sword is still not strong enough to destroy Sauron's Ring. It may be powerful, but the One Ring has far more power than even the Master Sword has.

Jan 31st, 2014 02:13 AM

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Yes, I do.

I also agree that the Master Sword is still not strong enough to destroy Sauron's Ring. It may be powerful, but the One Ring has far more power than even the Master Sword has.

I agree. The master sword was parried by any sword in the game and was not that powerful only effective against certain beings once it pierced their soft skin.

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Zant still uses his magic throughout the battle. Sorry, he doesn't prevent him from doing so.

Duh. It negates his protection and prevents his curse from working on Link.

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The skill attack is what grants the ability not the sword. Obvious is obvious.

So the shockwave that the Jump Strike creates is entirely nonmagical?

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So the sword only works against evil.

Dorf was evil.

That is its entire purpose, yes. It's a little more limited against non evil targets unless there is reason to affect them.

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False. It proves boy swords can cut into him. They can't destroy each other. Both swords are more durable than Dorf.

The Sage's Sword will continue to be irrelevant to Ganondorf's Triforce granted durability.

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What resistance feats did the twilight sword have ?

Tanking dragon bone and multi story falls while being crushed by said dragon bone. The Master Sword also cuts Ghirahim and his swords apart.

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Duh. It negates his protection and prevents his curse from working on Link.

So the shockwave that the Jump Strike creates is entirely nonmagical?

That is its entire purpose, yes. It's a little more limited against non evil targets unless there is reason to affect them.

The Sage's Sword will continue to be irrelevant to Ganondorf's Triforce granted durability.

Tanking dragon bone and multi story falls while being crushed by said dragon bone. The Master Sword also cuts Ghirahim and his swords apart.

So it can prevent a transformation curse but can't disable the user.

A skill, bro.

So it can't do anything against the sword of Gryffindor. Perfect.

We have a direct comparison. Sages sword doesn't break but Dorfs skin does.

Provide a clip.

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So it can prevent a transformation curse but can't disable the user.

Prevent and dispel, and also reflect spells.

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A skill, bro.

Neat, so the Ring has no defense against the Mortal Draw.

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So it can't do anything against the sword of Gryffindor. Perfect.

Yeah, it'd probably be the same as against the Sage's Sword. Neither could really harm the other on magical terms, but I guess physically they could class.

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We have a direct comparison. Sages sword doesn't break but Dorfs skin does.

Irrelevant to any Ganondorf with the Triforce of Power.

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Provide a clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-lciW3qhbM

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Fiendfyre never destroyed a Horcrux in the films. Lie.

Ak can kill a Horcrux in a person. No proof it works on one stored in an artifact though.

What potent wizard destroyed one with their powers in the films ?

Do you always just throw shit and see if it sticks on a wall in a debate.

And? Word of god states the flames can destroy one.

Yes because it's magical and causes high physical hazards (death), same as the poison and flames.

Canon information. Try it some time.

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Prevent and dispel, and also reflect spells.

Neat, so the Ring has no defense against the Mortal Draw.

Yeah, it'd probably be the same as against the Sage's Sword. Neither could really harm the other on magical terms, but I guess physically they could class.

Irrelevant to any Ganondorf with the Triforce of Power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-lciW3qhbM

It cannot prevent something from damaging him and he can still be transformed.

Mortal draw leaves link open for death.

Sog has greater feats though.

Your claim is irrelevant since the sword blocks the ms which cuts Dorfs skin.

One can resist the ms while one cuts deep into it. Mom on sense ftw.

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