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FrothByte
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Saying that since a single magic spell can effect a human sized object, it must be able to do the same to a multi-hundred ton object sounds like a no limits fallacy to me.


Saying that magic won't work on a creature simply because it's big is also a no limits fallacy of the creature's durability.

That's like saying, the creature can tank armed fire so therefore it can also tank magical attacks.


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Saying that magic won't work on a creature simply because it's big is also a no limits fallacy of the creature's durability.

That's like saying, the creature can tank armed fire so therefore it can also tank magical attacks.


So if both are no Limit Fallacies... how do we proceed?


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Originally posted by FrothByte
Saying that magic won't work on a creature simply because it's big is also a no limits fallacy of the creature's durability.

That's like saying, the creature can tank armed fire so therefore it can also tank magical attacks.


I never said that magic wouldn't work, I just think that it would take more than a single wizard to do it, seeing as no single wizard has any feats that are even close to effecting something of Godzilla's size or durability.

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I never said that magic wouldn't work, I just think that it would take more than a single wizard to do it, seeing as no single wizard has any feats that are even close to effecting something of Godzilla's size or durability.


Oh definitely. They'd probably need a whole army of wizards.


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Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
So if both are no Limit Fallacies... how do we proceed?


It's basically the conundrum of about every other potter thread in this forum. Whenever a potter character gets matched with an opponent of superior durability, the argument gets deadlocked on the argument of:

a.) Prove that potter magic can work on someone who's more durable than the average human

vs.

b.) Prove that said durable opponent is resistant to magic


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So we have an army of wizards that bring him down in pain. How do we kill it?


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Oh definitely. They'd probably need a whole army of wizards.


Which could be a problem, because by and large most HP wizards/witches are cowards as seen when almost nobody fought back against Tommy boy's group even when they outnumbered them a few thousand to one.

It's rather sad that school kids and a few adults were the ones willing to fight.

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So we have an army of wizards that bring him down in pain. How do we kill it?


Cut off his head? Failing that, immobilize it, put it in indefinite sleep or something. Reduce it to a frog or mouse and keep it locked in a cage?


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Cut off his head? Failing that, immobilize it, put it in indefinite sleep or something. Reduce it to a frog or mouse and keep it locked in a cage?


If they all did it at the same time they could probably set it's entire body on fire with Incendio!


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Then go back and read what I actually said, not what your fantasies made you imagine I said.

Yeah, what?

Convert me to Islam? No thanks.

Be clean? I am.
You said Godzilla is different and has resistance so prove it.

If you can't then you concede.


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Whilst there is no defence spell against Cruciatus Curse, except for hiding behind physical objects, a wizard of strong will can resist the spell. Plus you can't keep using the curse forever, you'll exhaust yourself. If it does effect Godzilla, and my stance is that it won't, it is just a temporary fix and will probably piss him off even more.
Prove a wizard can resist it of strong will in the films. You just said a wizard also which Godzilla is not.


It's like a ko. If he is down without being able to defend himself he loses.

Voldemort wins.


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Godzilla is a walking nuclear reactor, fire is probably not a good idea. He can regen as well. But I see no reason why the sleep spells or turning him into something wouldn't work.

Funny note. In the Marvel comics, they shrunk godzilla to a tiny size and he proceeded to whip Things ass. And a rats ass for good measure lol.

Well, it looks like everyone for the most part seems to think the wizards are more than capable of finding a way to deal with Godzilla. I would expect heavy losses from anyone fighting a creature like this.And The no limits fallacy for both sides is definitely annoying to argue about. Maybe Voldemort turns godzilla into his pet and then defeats the potter universe. I don't know but I do know Voldemorts an ugly ****.

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Godzilla is a walking nuclear reactor, fire is probably not a good idea. He can regen as well. But I see no reason why the sleep spells or turning him into something wouldn't work.

Funny note. In the Marvel comics, they shrunk godzilla to a tiny size and he proceeded to whip Things ass. And a rats ass for good measure lol.

Well, it looks like everyone for the most part seems to think the wizards are more than capable of finding a way to deal with Godzilla. I would expect heavy losses from anyone fighting a creature like this.And The no limits fallacy for both sides is definitely annoying to argue about. Maybe Voldemort turns godzilla into his pet and then defeats the potter universe. I don't know but I do know Voldemorts an ugly ****.
Who said fire ?


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If they all did it at the same time they could probably set it's entire body on fire with Incendio!


If they ever think of it, let's not forget that wizards/witches in the HPverse are also rather stupid, which is understandable because not one of them have more than a 5th grade education in non-magical subjects.

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You just said


Dude I said that ages ago, keep up.


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If they ever think of it, let's not forget that wizards/witches in the HPverse are also rather stupid, which is understandable because not one of them have more than a 5th grade education in non-magical subjects.


Lol that's true, it just occurred to me none of them learnt to do math.


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If they ever think of it, let's not forget that wizards/witches in the HPverse are also rather stupid, which is understandable because not one of them have more than a 5th grade education in non-magical subjects.


Yeah well, I'm hoping they start to smarten up once half their population is decimated.


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I'm confused. In the harry potter universe when harry crosses over to the magic side or whatever. Is it actually an entire planet or is it just a small countrybsized area?

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Originally posted by FrothByte
It's basically the conundrum of about every other potter thread in this forum. Whenever a potter character gets matched with an opponent of superior durability, the argument gets deadlocked on the argument of:

a.) Prove that potter magic can work on someone who's more durable than the average human

vs.

b.) Prove that said durable opponent is resistant to magic

In cases like these, err on the side of the contestant who's much bigger and much more powerful.

Anyone who thinks that a single wizard can defeat Godzilla is either an idiot or Quanchi (with is another level of stupidity)

I don't see wizards faring much better than their muggle counterparts against Godzilla. There's literally nothing in the Potterverse that can be compared to Godzilla in terms of destructive power, durability, and damage soak.


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Dude I said that ages ago, keep up.
That quote was to Robbie not you. Do you speak for Roberta ?


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