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Yes, you are to believe that Zod and Faora's flimsy demonstrably easily broken see-through shit is inferior to Nam-Ek's solid metal helmet. Especially considering Faora's actual armored helmet can retract and was retracted when it was broken.


I tried rewatching MOS (skimmed through it) and I don't see anywhere where Faora had an armored mask like Nam-ek. What retracted was the breathing apparatus that covered her mouth.

And it seems silly that the general and his lieutenant would wear inferior armor to those of their regular soldiers.


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I tried rewatching MOS (skimmed through it) and I don't see anywhere where Faora had an armored mask like Nam-ek. What retracted was the breathing apparatus that covered her mouth.

And it seems silly that the general and his lieutenant would wear inferior armor to those of their regular soldiers.


Rob already posted pics of the masks, what more evidence do you need? Zod had the same mask except he changed his. Screen feats are screen feats, now your making up stuff to support your silly mask arguement. Namek mask never got damaged was an issue because he kept his armor up, are we done talking about characters not in this fight as well such as Zod and Faora who happened to have their armor down?

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Rob already posted pics of the masks, what more evidence do you need? Zod had the same mask except he changed his. Screen feats are screen feats, now your making up stuff to support your silly mask arguement. Namek mask never got damaged was an issue because he kept his armor up, are we done talking about characters not in this fight as well such as Zod and Faora who happened to have their armor down?



I'm aware of Robtard's pics. Rob, unlike you, apparently took the time to do his research. You should too, you'll see that even the fully armored version of Zod and Faora's masks are different from Nam-ek. At least as far as I can see when rewinding and replaying MOS.

Nam-ek's mask never got damaged. Of course, Nam-ek also never got direct hits to the face like Zod and Faora did. Claiming that Nam-ek's mask is a lot more durable than Zod's or Faora's even though they weren't subjected to the same or similar attacks is silly.


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Ronan is a non-factor.

Sigh.


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I'm aware of Robtard's pics. Rob, unlike you, apparently took the time to do his research. You should too, you'll see that even the fully armored version of Zod and Faora's masks are different from Nam-ek. At least as far as I can see when rewinding and replaying MOS.

Nam-ek's mask never got damaged. Of course, Nam-ek also never got direct hits to the face like Zod and Faora did. Claiming that Nam-ek's mask is a lot more durable than Zod's or Faora's even though they weren't subjected to the same or similar attacks is silly.


Do my own research? I already knew this as I have watched the movie many times, he posted the picture for proof. Be best to actually watch the movie without blinders on this time and think because Zod was higher rank then Namek, that must just mean his armor must be tougher.

As a soldier I will tell you the lower ranking people always have more armor and weapons and are tougher in the field, then the officers because they are the ones that actually have to do the grunt work in the field. This is common sense..

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It still took an exploding gas station, smashing through giant concrete pillars/structure and several punches from a pissed off Superman to break.


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It still took an exploding gas station, smashing through giant concrete pillars/structure and several punches from a pissed off Superman to break.


True. I never said it was gonna be easy. Just that it would probably be eaiser to break the mask than KO Thor or Hulk.


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True. I never said it was gonna be easy. Just that it would probably be eaiser to break the mask than KO Thor or Hulk.


Cept you did, right here..his mask was never damaged, not even once, he also happened to be the strongest, biggest Kryp with the most armor.

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And as tough as Nam-ek is, a broken helmet will be the end of him. And let's face it, the face is the most likely target Thor and Hulk will aim for.


Show me where Thor has the punching power that the Kryptonians do? I want to see feats specifically putting him on Kryptonian levels of raw strength in regards to punching strength, lifting strength, throwing strength and raw power. If you don't have the feats to present, then just concede to it.

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I remember Thor hitting Chitauri foot soldiers left and right with Mew Mew, you would think they would explode in front of such power but it was no diferent than an iron pipe lol.

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Just look the shockwave, holy shit i never saw that !!! Zod just countered a sonic punch from Superman!!!

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I think a lot of confusion when people do say that in the fight between Supes and Zod the shockwaves produced by these two were destroying skyscrapers. It is not true. The only skyscraper was destroyed when Zod used to heat vision within the building itself. The other skyscrapers seemed all standing. Yes, they had damage, but they were integers.

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I think a lot of confusion when people do say that in the fight between Supes and Zod the shockwaves produced by these two were destroying skyscrapers. It is not true. The only skyscraper was destroyed when Zod used to heat vision within the building itself. The other skyscrapers seemed all standing. Yes, they had damage, but they were integers.
Yah. The only building that actually collapsed during the fight was that one.

But people are stupid anyways.


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Cept you did, right here..his mask was never damaged, not even once, he also happened to be the strongest, biggest Kryp with the most armor.



Show me where Thor has the punching power that the Kryptonians do? I want to see feats specifically putting him on Kryptonian levels of raw strength in regards to punching strength, lifting strength, throwing strength and raw power. If you don't have the feats to present, then just concede to it.


Nope, I never said it was easy to destroy the Kryptonian mask. Just said it was easier than KOing Thor or Hulk. If I did, please quote me exactly what I said and I'll give you my full hearted apology. Otherwise, stop making things up.

I also never said that Thor punches as strong as a kryptonian. He doesn't. His hammer strikes however were strong enough to send a car flipping end over end (Avengers fight vs. Chitauri) and that's pretty close to Kryptonian punches. Then there's his charged hammer strikes, which are a completely different matter. His jotunheim buster was stronger and more destructive than anything the Kryptonians did. So is Thor stronger than a Kryptonian? No he isn't. But he has more power and destructive output. And of course there's Hulk's leviathan punch.

Now I provided proof, how bout you provide your own? Show me proof of the kryptonian helmet can withstand the force of anything like Thor's jotunheim buster or Hulk's leviathan punch. Heck, show me proof that the kyrptonians can produce that kind of destructive force in a single hit.


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a noob Superman trying to fly crashed into a mountain and destroyed most of it, no **** was given from superman part.
What are you trying to say? Superman would have trouble with the leviathans? because he wouldnt even need to punch them he would just fly through them like paper, he took down the world engine in that way, a machine much bigger than any leviathan, not to mention he did it in a weakened condition.

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He only destroyed a mountaintop, not destroy most of it

Though yeah, the World Engine feat should be above anything in the MCU barring the Infinity Gems


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The World engine ft isn't all that impressive to be honest. If the weight of it was so crushing and devastating, why was the humans body still intact when we see them flying in the air from it? It's not something outside of Hulks and Thor ability to survive and stand up in. Also, how durable was the machine? I seen someone brought up Superman destroying it. Was it stated on panel as being indestructible or something?


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Nope, I never said it was easy to destroy the Kryptonian mask. Just said it was easier than KOing Thor or Hulk. If I did, please quote me exactly what I said and I'll give you my full hearted apology. Otherwise, stop making things up.

I also never said that Thor punches as strong as a kryptonian. He doesn't. His hammer strikes however were strong enough to send a car flipping end over end (Avengers fight vs. Chitauri) and that's pretty close to Kryptonian punches. Then there's his charged hammer strikes, which are a completely different matter. His jotunheim buster was stronger and more destructive than anything the Kryptonians did. So is Thor stronger than a Kryptonian? No he isn't. But he has more power and destructive output. And of course there's Hulk's leviathan punch.

Now I provided proof, how bout you provide your own? Show me proof of the kryptonian helmet can withstand the force of anything like Thor's jotunheim buster or Hulk's leviathan punch. Heck, show me proof that the kyrptonians can produce that kind of destructive force in a single hit.


Are you really still talking about Namek's helmet? laughing laughing

Thor is gonna do a jotunheim buster on Nameks face..yea right. Thor gets speed blitz and smashed into oblivian faster then he can try and charge his weapon. That was a AOE attack that didn't even kill Lauffy who was right there. You think that is gonna hurt Namek now?

Show you proof kryptonians can produce destructive force? How about Zod brining down and entire sky scraper with just his heat vision. Or MoS flying through a mountain.

Hulks leviathan punch? You guys like to downplay the world engine feat then over hype the leviathan punch. Lmao, Hulk didnt even stop it on its own, he had help from Iron Man.

His hammer hits send an car flying equals super sonic punches from these guys? His hammer hits didn't even put down Captain America. Thor gets trashed worse then Hulk and Jurse trashes trashes him in 3 seconds. You saw what happened when he faced Kurse, he fcking lost, duh.

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The World engine ft isn't all that impressive to be honest. If the weight of it was so crushing and devastating, why was the humans body still intact when we see them flying in the air from it? It's not something outside of Hulks and Thor ability to survive and stand up in. Also, how durable was the machine? I seen someone brought up Superman destroying it. Was it stated on panel as being indestructible or something?


The world engine feat was not that impressive? Ok dude, the leviathan punch was not that impressive. If you wanna go down that road we can. How about Hulk not being that impressive in any movie he has been in

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I think a lot of confusion when people do say that in the fight between Supes and Zod the shockwaves produced by these two were destroying skyscrapers.


Quote someone saying that here.

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All the Krypts had very similar helms. Top pic is of Faora (left), Zod (cntr) and Nam-Ek (right) all with their helms in the full-armor mode.

Bottom pic is of Zod after he retracts the top piece and this is how it was when Superman attacked.

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The Krypt battle armor is seemingly incredibly durable, the final Zod fight proves that. Stands to reason both Zod's and Faora's helms were damaged due to them not being in their armored state.


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All the Krypts had very similar helms. Top pic is of Faora (left), Zod (cntr) and Nam-Ek (right) all with their helms in the full-armor mode.

Bottom pic is of Zod after he retracts the top piece and this is how it was when Superman attacked.

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The Krypt battle armor is seemingly incredibly durable, the final Zod fight proves that. Stands to reason both Zod's and Faora's helms were damaged due to them not being in their armored state.


Ah, my bad. Must have missed that scene. I stand corrected.


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