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Caine Wise
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Darth Vader
18
85.71%
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quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StealthRanger
So according to you wizards being scared of being killed if they were detected by humans and WoG saying a schmuck with a shotgun can defeat any wizard don't count
Nice double standards
Well if Hondo can capture Jedi he's just that damn awesome
So he took on some Redshirts and had cover and shit, yeah, that's totally something a Jedi couldn't replicate
It's not like Khan stood in an empty battleground in the middle of every enemy and stomped them while tanking their fire
You're going to have to be far more definitve than that
They were surrounded by blasters, at least in Dooku's case
So say nothing of the fact that this is the same series where you have Plo Koon moving a space pod with his telekinesis, Darth Maul moving a spaceship, Ashoka and some younglings collapsing a cliff-face
Or even in the movies where Obi-Wan and Yoda take on multiple squads of Clone Troopers outside the Temple, or Anakin and Obi-Wan taking on entire squads of Droids, etc
And as has been said to you several times throughout the MvF, Anakin lost solely due to CIS on his part, been there done that moving on
You haven't countered anything. You have simply stonewalled, ignored evidence, resorted to pedantiscm and nitpicked low end showings
Nice try, but it doesn't override actual feats
Good for Dooku, not sure what your argument was supposed to be though, retard
Vader force crushed an AT-AT, he can force crush Caine, unless you can show me a feat that suggests Caine can survive force enough to crush heavy durasteel machinery
#feats #can'tbedenied This isn't the books and the movies were different so you're also breaking the rules as well as making shit up.
No, it's the Jedi are overrated. Force powers meant shit there to non force users just like I said.
Khan stood right out in the open. He was easily seen and not hiding in cover. He wrecked shop. He took down a Klingon airship or two as well as their reinforcements. Hondo and some dipshit pirates held three force users hostage.
Watch the film.
Anakin is no Yoda. Anakin is some turd who was defeated by Obi. anakin was taken prisoner along with Dooku and Obi. Undeniable.m your feats aren't the same thing as beating live beings hence the reason Dooku was unable with help by his force powers to overtake Hondo. Canon.
That is a fact. Your speculation is not. Anakin lost. Game over. Your tears are enjoyable.
What have I ignored ?
Someone easily beating Anakin because he's stupid and arrogant.
Vader has never force crushed a human being and has been captured without using his force powers to get him out of it. Evidence >>>>your imagination.
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May 14th, 2015 01:49 AM
Robtard
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IOW: "Just because Darth Vader can crush metal it doesn't mean he can crush softer skin, sinew and muscle!"
You're so awful at this, quanchi112 <--- at you right now
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May 14th, 2015 01:56 AM
StealthRanger
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Butthurt wall of stonewalling, ABC logic and downplaying
Yeah, when you have the feats to suggest Caine can survive being crushed with enough force to crush an AT-AT, let me know
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May 14th, 2015 01:58 AM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
IOW: "Just because Darth Vader can crush metal it doesn't mean he can crush softer skin, sinew and muscle!"
You're so awful at this, quanchi112 <--- at you right now He has never done so. Dooku has as well but he didn't do so when Hondo had him as his prisoner.
Fanfic all you want.
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May 14th, 2015 01:59 AM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StealthRanger
Yeah, when you have the feats to suggest Caine can survive being crushed with enough force to crush an AT-AT, let me know
I knew I'd break you. Ignoring my posts means you're broken.
When Vader does that to a person let me know. He force chokes and that takes time. Caine kills him. Han even got shots off at him.
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May 14th, 2015 02:01 AM
Robtard
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
He has never done so. Dooku has as well but he didn't do so when Hondo had him as his prisoner.
Fanfic all you want.
IOW: "Just because Yoda lifted an X-Wing, it doesn't mean he can lift a baseball, because he never lifted a baseball with the Force!"
Just awful at this
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May 14th, 2015 02:05 AM
StealthRanger
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"Just because he does it to a heavily armored vehicle that can tank heavy laser cannons, doesn't mean he can do it to a far less durable thing such a a human"
You're not even trying, you have no idea what you're talking about
Your post had no substance and nothing worth responding to, hence why I responded as I did
Well you know, ignoring the fact that Vader deflected Han's attacks but you know, downplayers gon' downplay
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May 14th, 2015 02:06 AM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
IOW: "Just because Yoda lifted an X-Wing, it doesn't mean he can lift a baseball, because he never lifted a baseball with the Force!"
Just awful at this He can lift a baseball or forcepush Palpatine but acting like he rips him apart is a fanfic.
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May 14th, 2015 02:12 AM
StealthRanger
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By your own logic he can't lift a baseball because he never did specifically that. You can't have it both ways and make up special pleading as you go along
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May 14th, 2015 02:13 AM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StealthRanger
"Just because he does it to a heavily armored vehicle that can tank heavy laser cannons, doesn't mean he can do it to a far less durable thing such a a human"
You're not even trying, you have no idea what you're talking about
Your post had no substance and nothing worth responding to, hence why I responded as I did
Well you know, ignoring the fact that Vader deflected Han's attacks but you know, downplayers gon' downplay
Then provide proof of him doing so. If you can't then it isn't evidence it's a fanfic.
I argue based off facts you argue based off made up feats.
You conceded. Amazing.
He got hit. Caine finishes him with his superior firepower.
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May 14th, 2015 02:14 AM
StealthRanger
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Then provide proof of him doing so. If you can't then it isn't evidence it's a fanfic.
He force crushes an AT-AT, you're not doing anything other than stonewalling at this point
quote: I argue based off facts you argue based off made up feats.
Crushing an AT-AT is not a made up feat
quote: You conceded. Amazing.
There was no concession
quote: He got hit. Caine finishes him with his superior firepower.
Baseless assertion
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May 14th, 2015 02:16 AM
Robtard
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You just argued that Vader can't do something unless specifically shown, regardless of greater feats. Now I have you backtracking. So easy to get you to turn on yourself. Disturbingly easy. You've lost and are broken, quanchi112.
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May 14th, 2015 02:16 AM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StealthRanger
By your own logic he can't lift a baseball because he never did specifically that. You can't have it both ways and make up special pleading as you go along
Different application of power. He can lift objects that weigh less but he can't tear apart a human since he's never done so. Quit making shit up.
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May 14th, 2015 02:16 AM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
You just argued that Vader can't do something unless specifically shown, regardless of greater feats. Now I have you backtracking. So easy to get you to turn on yourself. Disturbingly easy. You've lost and are broken, quanchi112.
I never said he couldn't pish something that weighs less than something he's force pushed. He can't tear people apart. That's not the same thing.
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May 14th, 2015 02:19 AM
StealthRanger
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Different application of power. He can lift objects that weigh less but he can't tear apart a human since he's never done so. Quit making shit up.
"He crushed an AT-AT, but that doesn't mean he can crush a much less durable object like a human"
You're not even trying
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May 14th, 2015 02:19 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he couldn't pish something that weighs less than something he's force pushed. He can't tear people apart. That's not the same thing.
You said he couldn't use Force-crush on a body because he's never done so, regardless that he's crushed something more difficult (metal). You're desperately doing flips now and backtracking, it's hilarious. Too easy.
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May 14th, 2015 02:21 AM
StealthRanger
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According to Quanchi human bodies are much more durable than AT-AT's. Wonder why AT-AT's were ever a threat in Star Wars now that Quanchi has enlightened us
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May 14th, 2015 02:22 AM
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Quan is arguing movie feats only which technically he is correct, its never happened on screen.
George has never been into gore, so that would be kinda out of the question unless its shown in new movies.
Sure if Vadar could crush and AT-AT the can crush a human.
Seems IMP needs to rule on this, cause no one is going to agree.
May 14th, 2015 02:35 AM
StealthRanger
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I thought shit like Clone Wars and Disney Canon shit was allowed in vs debates here?
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May 14th, 2015 02:36 AM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StealthRanger
"He crushed an AT-AT, but that doesn't mean he can crush a much less durable object like a human"
You're not even trying
Its never occurred. Quit with the fanfics.
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May 14th, 2015 03:14 AM
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