Which could mean Black Racer is far more durable than Adam. Lol...I've never claimed that a peer could stand in one spot and tank punches from another peer. That scene tells us Racer is out of Superman's league and his pained hand is proof of this as well. Just let ABHI handle this.
It's a feat of how hard they're punching. Surely, this is common sense? I'm not even talking about being a Superfan or not here - just that the showing contradicts the statement (as you yourself pointed out, it DOES occur from time to time).
We see what happens when Superman gets desperate and goes all out....and he punches so hard he hurts himself. As seen against Doomsday, and now, Black Racer.
To be honest I just don't really think saying we only know if Superman is going all out if he hurts his hands is the best way to go about it. Not every writer is going to show that Superman has gone all out by showing him hurting his hands.
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Especially with a guy like Supes, who has lip service and names MMH as one of the beings he's afraid to face, has 'never been punched so hard before!' etc etc and is often used by writers as a 'Worf', to establish the Big Bad - before defeating them?
It depends on who he is fighting and if he would even need to use full force in order to have any sort of effect on them. If Black Adam is someone you think he genuinely wouldn't need to go all out on in order to harm due to his durability feats that is different. If it was a character that was perhaps new and had no other showings then I'd try to use perhaps destruction to the surroundings as some sort of clue in addition to character statements.
It is also possible that yes Superman does slowly grow in power so he might not necessarily always be hurting himself to go all out.
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Lol...so does this only apply to Superman or is this across the board? I don't think Hulk ever hurt his hand punching someone so I'm guessing he wasn't going all out. Thor broke his wrist hitting Haarold so I'm guessing that was the only time he went all out. Help me understand this. Is this just a Superman thang?
When Superman fought HP Doomsday, he didn't hurt his fist. Are you implying Superman was holding back against this version of Doomsday? I'm sure I can prove you wrong. Let me know (WTF).
He wasn't trying to slug it out with HP Doomsday. He deliberately used long distance attacks. He was also poisoned when punching Doomsday, so not at 100%.
After that, his arm was broken in two places (imagine trying to punch with your right arm when your left arm is snapped). So not 100%.
Superman arrives on Apokolips, just as Doomsday is BFRed to Calaton.
They arrive at Calaton, and Motherbox upgrades Superman
Superman uses HV (and specifically says he DOESN'T want to use h2h)
Doomsday fires his claws, and poisons Superman
Superman uses sonics
Superman punches him (once?)
Superman uses his lightsabre, then HV
Doomsday grabs him, and snaps his arm twice
Superman gets caught up in that massive explosion, and 'hits his limit'
Does a right uppercut, putting everything he has into it
Sends Doomsday to the end of time.
So at no point does he punch with everything he has, whilst fresh, at Doomsday.
Edit: I am mistaken, he punches Doomsday twice. With his poisoned arm, and actually says how '....inside me, the feelings of a scared little boy bubble to the surface. Unfortunately, confidence is everything in a situation like this....'
This isn't me being a Superfan. This is me being anti-carver. Your arguments are terrible.
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