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Originally posted by quanchi112
He brought down Valyrion who wasn't aware. We saw regular bowmen hit Drogon as well.

One swift movement with his speed and the spear goes by. This isn't an arrow and as I said GoT dragons haven't evaded arrows as well. Smaug evades and dominates.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
PPPPFFFF LOL

I think i have already neutralized that point of yours. Smaug was aware of the Black Arrow Bard had, yet his pride made him care less and evaded nothing!!

Lol here is no difference in a spear and an arrow!!! That Javelin toss pf NK makes any spear be as good as an arrow.

Leave ypur pride just like Sable did. There is no point in defending Smaug which clearñy loses this one.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I already said an arrow isn't the same thing as a spear. We see no GoT dragons avoid arrows either. It isn't the same thing.

We see Drogon fail to dodge a bunch of arrows but dodge that Pansy's toss. He is up against someone from middle earth not some weakling from Westoros.


Smaug wins based off the evidence.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Smaug wins based on your unfounded logic not evidence!

NK wins on evidence.

Smaug has dodge nothing in his life, dont see why he would dodge a spear either way!!!

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Spears aren't arrows and even your spears are 0/1 when a dragon is aware.

NK doesn't have the bulk of his horde. Smaug would decimate this pretender.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No they arent but the act the same!!! They are both weapons that can be thrown!!!!

What makes you think Smaug would dodge a Spear and not an Arrow!? That is unfounded logic to say that just cause it is a spear there will be a difference!!

Its like saying that someone who falls from a bike wont fall from a motorcicle!

Again I ask you to please be reasonable!

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Arrows apparently are faster and harder to dodge since the spear only hit an unsuspecting dragon.

It's an unknown weapon from an unknown foe. He has experience against arrows.

NK can't hide behind his army and someone is actually engaging him. His time is up.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Faster!? Lol you assumed that?

Cause if you check the videos NK olympic toss seems to travel faster than Bards Spear!!

So the Spear should be harder to dodge than the arrow.

Again Quanchi, admit this time Smaug loses.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, since arrows hit the dragon. We know they travel quickly as well but unlike the spear no dragon has dodged.

Based off what ? Speculation.

No, you are speculating in favor of GoT. We already saw a dragon dodge it. Poor NK. Only cheapshotted a dragon with one.

Smaug crushes his guy.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol. The spear was travelling faster than the Arrow that Smaug failed to dodge!

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Id say you are the one blindly supporting Smaug!

No matter what i say youll keep doing it!

Smaug loses here because NK is superior.

Smaug is a dragon, NK has killed dragons.

Smaug loses by evidence and by support of others which replied to this thread. [/B]

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Then prove it.
I am citing evidence you are speculating.

Another baseless claim.

All dragons are not created equal. You already admitted Smaug is superior to GoT dragons who are weak. Your own words.

Smaug is a superior dragon from a superior fictional universe. More inhtelligent, bigger, more durable, more powerful, etc.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Based on what we saw on screen NK toss traveled faster than the Arrow shot by Bard!!!

Still a dragon. NK Spear has the same effect!!

Again your favoritism over LoTR and Smaug prevents you from being fair and honest in your judgement.

Therefore arguing this is useless cause you wont accept your idol to lose.

When you make or reply to a thread you have to be as impartial as possible.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't proving its just speculation on your end.

That's bad logic. It's like saying hey watch this guy kill a 15 year human therefore he kills a badass UFC fighter in combat.

Irony since you have not proven any of your claims. You are using bad logic and not proving anything.

I am citing evidence we differ on opinions. It isn't the end of the world. NK is a pansy thus far who hides behind his army. Smaug ends him.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
If we are talking about pure evidence then you lose either way!

Using speculation or Efidence Smaug loses the same!!

I have show you both evidence and speculation!

When you evidence you bring speculation, when i bring you speculation you ask for evidence. You are just going in circles.

As i said, be honest! Smaug loses either way, but you are not being coeherent.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
How so ?

You made claims you haven't backed. You have to take back the claims.


I am being coherent and unlike you I make claims I back up. Smaug wins. GoT dragons according to you are inferior to Smaug decimating your hey all dragons die to NK. Smaug wins.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
One LAST TIME i will give you both my evidence and speculation: To show how obsessed and irrational youve been throughout this thread!

Evidence:

1. Smaug's HUGE size makes him an easy target.
2. Smaug is moving towards NK, getting closer and facilitating NK to hit him.
3.NK has a good aim!
4.Smaug is proud and too stupid to dodge enemies.
5. NK is patient and wont rush to shoot stupidly, he will make sure to hit!.

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Your response (Mere UNFOUNDED speculation)

1. Smaug will dodge the spear: Mere speculation since he has never dodge something.
2: NK has never hit an unaware dragon!: Lol totally IRRATIONAL! Just cause he failed to a Dragon which was smaller than Smaug and which was escaping doesnt mean SMAUG has a chance!!!
/QUOTE]1. That's a common tactic anyone can do so. It's like saying Smaug cant fart because we have never seen him do so. He's against an unknown opponent.

2. He hasn't not that he can't he just hasn't so the evidence supports me.
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You have defended Smaug against my evidence with mere Speculation and Unfounded Claims...So i give you speculation now.

My Speculation WHICH is BACKED:

1. NK toss is faster than Bards Arrow: Check both videos and it is evident that the Spear was travelling faster!!! Am speculating that, but what we see on screen backs it up! So it should be harder for Smaug to Dodge the spear!
2. Smaug's Uncontrolable Pride: Its not unknown that Smaugs pride makes him do STUPID things. He KNEW of BARDS BLACK ARROW and still didnt care to EVEN TRY dodge it!!! So why should HE EVEN try dodge NKs spear!!!!??
3. NK calmness and defiant behaviour!: Just like he did in Hardhome or when he moved towards Drogon, NK is a fearless being. This would cause someone like Smaug to get Angry and for his pride to act against him. Again putting him at dangerous situations!

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1. An arrow isnt a Spear!: Again an irrelevant defense, since both Spears and Arrows work the same way! Just because its a spear doesnt mean Smaug will act differently!! Your claim is irrelevant to this situation!
2. Smaug is a better dragon: Again, irrational statement. The only reason Smaug wins over Danys Dragons is because he is bigger! And this doesnt mean he isn invulnerable to NK spear! Again another pointless claim.
3: You ask for evidence: Although I already gave you evidence you try to deceive by saying am using mere speculation. Therefore i made this reply outlining both my evidence and speculation.

Conclusion: NK has the advantage! Both Evidence and speculation support him! The only reason you are supporting Smaug is due to favoritism!

Even Sable was wise enough to admit that Smaug is at a disadvantage here! Why cant you leave your pride? [/B]

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Originally posted by quanchi112
1. Drogon has a huge size as well but when you can fly at a considerably fast rate you can also change your trajectory to move out of the way. We see a dragon do so.

2. Yes, he's moving at him and Drogon moving away didn't make NK any less accurate he just reacted to the attack. Viserion wasn't even aware so he didn't react.

3. Agreed but Smaug is aware which is crucial.

4. False. We have never seen NK move quickly or dodge anything so there's no reason for him to react quickly to Smaug. Who even says NK can toss it before Smaug will each him.

5. He missed Drogon. . He took his time and failed. Plus see number four.
1. So you're ignoring the slow motion dramatic effect Lotr clearly uses in Smaug's final blow to pedal your pro GoT bias. Not on my watch. We see no GoT dragons dodge their arrows either.

2. He was already injured and it was the perfect strike. He's aware of black arrows but not of the ice spear hence why he wouldn't just assume.

3. NK has had his entire horde with him. Let's see how he reacts when he doesn't have a huge numerical advantage. Smaug is far bigger and far more impressive so please don't compare him to a guy who needs an army to do his damage.

1. They don't travel at the same speed. We also see Drogon fail to dodge arrows but also dodge that spear. Proof it's magical.

2. He's more durable, smarter, etc. he's better in every conceivable way. Don't you dare compare your pansy ass dragons from GoT to Lotr whose elites wipe their asses with GoT elites. Every advantage.

3. We disagree. It's that simple.

Nah, he doesn't have an army, is slower, has one chance, and it's not even a foregone conclusion one spear would kill him, etc.

Smaug wins.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Well we simply have different opinions!

Its clear i cant dissuade you otherwise!!

Why can you be like Sable!!!

......pffff stubborn people.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
You are stubborn as well. Long live Smaug.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Long Live NK which will slain Smaug in GoT vs Hobbit! XD