After Thor's character grown from Thor 1, Ragnarok, and Infinity War, this is a tough one.
Remember the last scene in Thor: The Dark World? He was willing to give up Mjolnir and his throne because he'd rather be a good man, than a great king, and doesn't have the heart for absolute rule.
Hemsworth acting in the last two movies especially shows a lot of growth. He isn't as "pure" as Silver Age Thor (Vengeance was one of his driving motivators) but as we saw by his speech to Etri, he is driven by hope ultimately.
I'm curious to see them interact side-by-side in Avengers 4. They both had the best entrances in IW, and you really understood why they (And Stark) are the trinity of Marvel's Avengers.
And after the last three movies, Thor's no less of a tragic character than Steve. That scene with Rocket imo was some of the best acting in the movie.
I think the best way to describe is that whoever you think is more heroic depends on a slight change of ideals. Thor is after-all from a warrior race but Steve was raised in a humble home.
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Captain America: The Winter Soldier
-Hydra comes out of the shadows
-Bucky Barnes aka. The Winter Soldier makes it's return and attack's SHIELD, attempts to kill both Cap and Nick Fury
- Did Steve even had a mother to look after him!? Did he even had someone to take care of him!!? Did he even had someone to feed him and love him!?..The only woman who loved him (Agent Carter) was ripped off his arms by time.
- Steve never had a brother! The only brother he ever knew 'apparently died' only to return years later as an enemy known as the Winter Soldier. Now he is faced with the heart-breaking task of facing his own brother in combat.
- Steve rather DIE! HE RATHER DIE instead of his brother who had turned evil and didn't only wanted to kill him but wanted the to destroy the world. Not only that, but Steve actually saved the day AGAIN!
Thor: Dark World
-Dark Elves come out of the shadows
-Malekith attacks Asgard killing Freya and kidnapping Jayne
- The entire Asgard moarns Freya's death and gives her a HELL of a funeral worthy of the Queen of Asgard. Her death is but a collateral damage between The Asgard-Elf wars.
- Thor follows his duty as Heir of Asgard and goes face Malekith which results in Loki 'apparently dying'. Sure Thor moarned him too, another casualty of war.
- BLAH BLAH BLAH, usual storytelling. The good guy defeats the bad one. End of Thor.
Conclusion: Thor had it hard yes, but Cap still had it worse!
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Hmm. I'm giving this to Thor. MCU Captain America doesn't actually strike me as being all that heroic. Yeah, he's determined, brave and a good tactician, but he's also arrogant, judgemental, and a very poor leader. How many times has the team fallen apart/been vulnerable because his troops didn't think they could talk to him or trust him? How many times has he endangered countless innocents to protect the lives of some morally-questionable friend? Cap may be the leader of the Avengers, but that is solely due to the plot designating it so. In actual credentials and aptitude, well, he's a questionable choice at best.
What personal attack? Pointing out to you how stupid your arguments are isn't a personal attack, it's plain honesty. The difference between us is that I'm not willing to completely lowball Cap because I'm honest, whereas you'll do whatever it takes to grind Thor and his kin down even if it means completely misrepresenting facts... like your definition of KO.
You'll notice that since he couldn't refute my point, he's the one that resorted to personal attacks.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
I won't even defend the debate, since you aren't longer debating, you are crying and whimping for the fact that you can't longer defend your case.
And the difference between you and me Mr. Froth is that you are EXTREMELY OBSESSED with Thor whilst I am objective! Evidence: You rarely bring evidence and always try to lowball mines!
And yet not once did I say that Thor wins in this match. I'm perfectly willing to debate, but it's useless to debate with someone who'll pervert facts just to support their bias. For example, saying Captain America has no mother... what kind of nonsense is that? Of course he had a mother. And saying he has no brother... what, having no brother now makes you more heroic? Are you saying growing up without a brother is somehow more traumatic than having your brother murdered before your eyes?
There's no debating with such asinine comments as these. You can't debate with stupid.
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I give Thor the slight edge, again. Personal preference but I don't begrudge anyone giving Cap the edge.
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