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Diesldude
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I think this is now a repository of every mention of Hercs, lol.

And once again - mystic energy units:

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In summary - a Herc is a unit of mystic energy. The amount of mystical energy that Hercules can expend in one blow.

NOT a physical energy unit. Hulk withstanding 133 Hercs internally means nothing in a non-mystical sense, as its completely different.

Carver's next point: Hulk is weak against magic, so it's actually a PLUS!!

Wrong.

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It was pure anger. And Hulk is...well, he says it himself. Throwing anger at the Hulk is never going to kill him - Carver has actually had it all wrong all this time.

It's actually a low end feat, lol. We firstly have no idea how much mystical energy Herc expends in a punch (we know how much PHYSICAL energy, sure, but its meaningless here). Secondly, Hulk is being attacked by something which should amp him, and he nearly dies.
thumb up thanks for this. This explains a lot.

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That post is as imprecise as Carver's. They're measuring the amount of physical force Hercules can generate with a punch. This does not mean a love tap.One Herc is what Hercules punches at while exerting himself. Immortal Hercules can be measured based on strength feats. This is the number that we measure from. Not just some random number. Hercules can move the island of Manhattan. Can't he? We should begin there, kind of like they do in Death Battle.


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It's his MAXIMUM output of power. Hercules is one of the strongest beings on the planet.


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That post is as imprecise as Carver's. They're measuring the amount of physical force Hercules can generate with a punch. This does not mean a love tap.One Herc is what Hercules punches at while exerting himself. Immortal Hercules can be measured based on strength feats. This is the number that we measure from. Not just some random number. Hercules can move the island of Manhattan. Can't he? We should begin there, kind of like they do in Death Battle.


No, they're measuring the MYSTICAL energy Herc generated with a punch.


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laughing out loud


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Hercs are detected by a mystical energy detection unit, which displays readings in...Hercs:
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Mystical energy Herc generates with a punch. Now that's funny.


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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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Hercs are detected by a mystical energy detection unit, which displays readings in...Hercs:
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thumb up

Tbh, at the start I just didn't see your argument and thought you were just trolling Carv. But take a look at this.

The whackiest part of HotM makes a lot more sense now.


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Mystical energy Herc generates with a punch. Now that's funny.
he’s supposedly a Greek god right?

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Just by standing there, he radiates that energy:

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It's nothing to do with his physical strength. It's a measure of how magical they are.


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It's nothing to do with his physical strength. It's a measure of how magical they are.

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How does that mystical energy interract with the physical universe? Which clearly affected the Hulk on a physical level. You guys are trying to hard to reshape the author's views. If it had nothing to do with physical power, they wouldn't have ever mentioned how it pertained to Hercules, and how much energy he can expend in one punch.

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Just by standing there, he radiates that energy:

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It's nothing to do with his physical strength. It's a measure of how magical they are.


Not sure I understand where you drew that conclusion from? This is a reading of how powerful Hope was in the physical universe in direct relation to how powerful Hercules is. The only thing that may be murky or arguable, is whether it was measuring Immortal Hercules, or a Mortal Hercules, which then becomes less murky when we read that Baba Yaga was measured as being 1.3 Hercs in power. It specifically states that Baba Yaga was as powered up as 1.3 times Hercules at his old awesome levels, leaving out the possibility that they were talking about his weaker mortal form. A relatively calm Hulk, took a hit to the intestines from a being capable of hitting with the force of Hercules X 133.5. That wasn't even him at the levels that he attained in the Dark Dimension.

The lengths that you guys go in order to discredit the Hulk, or Superman are truly disturbing. These guys have no phucking limit cap. Get used to it.


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How does that mystical energy interract with the physical universe? Which clearly affected the Hulk on a physical level. You guys are trying to hard to reshape the author's views. If it had nothing to do with physical power, they wouldn't have ever mentioned how it pertained to Hercules, and how much energy he can expend in one punch.



Not sure I understand where you drew that conclusion from? This is a reading of how powerful Hope was in the physical universe in direct relation to how powerful Hercules is. The only thing that may be murky or arguable, is whether it was measuring Immortal Hercules, or a Mortal Hercules, which then becomes less murky when we read that Baba Yaga was measured as being 1.3 Hercs in power. It specifically states that Baba Yaga was as powered up as 1.3 times Hercules at his old awesome levels, leaving out the possibility that they were talking about his weaker mortal form. A relatively calm Hulk, took a hit to the intestines from a being capable of hitting with the force of Hercules X 133.5. That wasn't even him at the levels that he attained in the Dark Dimension.

The lengths that you guys go in order to discredit the Hulk, or Superman are truly disturbing. These guys have no phucking limit cap. Get used to it.


Herc, whilst eating a sandwich, or sitting on the toilet, or sleeping, radiates energy. As he is a mythological guy.

When he punches, he radiates more energy. This is 1 Herc. It has NOTHING to do with how much he lifts - because even when he is drunk and sleeping, he is STILL radiating this same energy (albeit much less, obviously).

Put it this way. I radiate heat energy, no matter whether I am sleeping, eating, or fighting. Agree?

When I punch, I exert myself, and the maximum amount of heat energy that I expend increases. But it is NOT the same energy I exert when I am benching or squatting in the gym. And ISN'T the kinetic energy that you feel from my punch.

In short, detecting my heat energy and measuring my heat energy doesn't equate 1:1 with the kinetic energy of my punch.


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Herc, whilst eating a sandwich, or sitting on the toilet, or sleeping, radiates energy. As he is a mythological guy.

When he punches, he radiates more energy. This is 1 Herc. It has NOTHING to do with how much he lifts - because even when he is drunk and sleeping, he is STILL radiating this same energy (albeit much less, obviously).

Put it this way. I radiate heat energy, no matter whether I am sleeping, eating, or fighting. Agree?

When I punch, I exert myself, and the maximum amount of heat energy that I expend increases. But it is NOT the same energy I exert when I am benching or squatting in the gym. And ISN'T the kinetic energy that you feel from my punch.

In short, detecting my heat energy and measuring my heat energy doesn't equate 1:1 with the kinetic energy of my punch.


You sitting on a toilet or eating a sandwich also radiates energy. It was a direct comparison as to how much power an Immortal Hercules can hit with in one punch. You can turn this into a circular argument for whatever it's worth, but you'll never be able to explain away the ridiculous numbers that come later. Like Wendigo and Bi-Beast at x1000 greater than base being overcome by the Hulk at far less than what he was when he went into the Dark Dimension. Again he has no limit cap.


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Another analogy - I radiate sound energy. My breathing, shuffling about, even the flow of blood in my veins and my heartbeat, all produces sound.

When I punch someone, there's more sound produced. My fist hitting, my breathing, my heart pumping...I produce a A LOT more.

Let's say you invent a machine to measure this sound. And call it 1 DarkSaint.

You can't then go well, this is how much DS can lift/punch, multiply by 133, and go from there. Because your DarkSaint unit is based on the sound energy I emit, NOT my strength level.

Understand?


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You sitting on a toilet or eating a sandwich also radiates energy. It was a direct comparison as to how much power an Immortal Hercules can hit with in one punch. You can turn this into a circular argument for whatever it's worth, but you'll never be able to explain away the ridiculous numbers that come later. Like Wendigo and Bi-Beast at x1000 greater than base being overcome by the Hulk at far less than what he was when he went into the Dark Dimension. Again he has no limit cap.


That's later, and a completely different argument.

My point is that Pandora being 133.45 Hercs ISN'T just taking his max strength feats, and multiply by 133.45. Because it is measuring MYSTICAL energy given off, NOT kinetic or physical energy.


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Hercules single most powerful punch, everything he can = 1 Herc. Hulk pings withstood 133 Hercs. Crazy ft.


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Hercules single most powerful punch, everything he can = 1 Herc. Hulk pings withstood 133 Hercs. Crazy ft.


You're not refuting anything I said. Please stop trolling.


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Mystical energy Herc generates with a punch. Now that's funny.


Laugh some more smile because Hercs ARE a measure of the energy MYSTICAL beings generate

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Its like I'm the only one who read the comic lol.


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Dark, no one is responding to you because you're a Hulk troll. I'm responding to the thread.


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