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Talking about this scene, my friend.

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And you also intentionally left out the part where it said he had the Flash abilities...

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Lmao Carv only scans respect threads, you ask too much of him.

Then sure, Carv, you made a great point. Quantify how heavy the heavens are, please. Tell me how many kgs mortal Hercules held up.

As for the rest of your post, are you really that dense? In comics, we have explanations for them. Silly as they may be, it's still rooted in pseudoscience. Superman does all that, being an alien. Mutants do that, because of mutations in their genes (as silly as that sounds). Humans like Batman do it, due to his training and gear.

Atlas does it, with magic.


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Lobo slammed the weight of the sun on earth. Explain the science with that, please. Hulk held the weight of the sun on his back on earth. Explain this, please. Superman pushed a miniature solar system that had a sun and gravity off of Earth, Explain this as well via science, please.


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Lobo slammed the weight of the sun on earth. Explain the science with that, please. Hulk held the weight of the sun on his back on earth. Explain this, please. Superman pushed a miniature solar system that had a sun and gravity off of Earth, Explain this as well via science, please.


All explained with comic book science, lmao.

I NEVER, NEVER said I was using RL science, you smooth brain laughing out loud what do they teach you in Carver high school???

Lobo is magical? Hulk is magic? Superman is magic? No? Then it's science. Stupid science, sure (Lobo being a multiversal alien, gamma, Kryptonian muscles), but still science. Ignoring Immortal Hulk of course, where it's theorised gamma is magic, but you don't want to argue that.

Atlas holding up the heavens, Hercules being a literal son of a god, isn't science.

How is this new knowledge to you? Or are you doing your usual desperate attempts to try and score a point on me? You've never done it, but keep dreaming big lol.


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So you're saying it's comic science to hold up the heavens? That Atlas isn't a mythical being?

What do they teach you in Carver High school??


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That is true. Amazo have all of the powers of the JLA, inuding Flash and Superman and both Batman and Nightwing was not only able to dodge almost every attack he did, they were making his head turn with punches. Is there science behind a human being as fast as Flash and Superman via hard training?

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What type of training makes a human this type of strong and fast if we look at this scientifically.


What the **** kind of argument are you trying to make?


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What the **** kind of argument are you trying to make?


That science doesn't explain Batman being capable of hitting Amazo.


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That science doesn't explain Batman being capable of hitting Amazo.


That makes no sense. Like, your statement.


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That science doesn't explain Batman being capable of hitting Amazo.
Comic inconsistency. Characters don't always operate at peak abilities in a comic. Spidey has been hit with shit far slower than a bullet yet he dodges bullets (even machine gun fire) nearly 100% of the time.


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Comic inconsistency. Characters don't always operate at peak abilities in a comic. Spidey has been hit with shit far slower than a bullet yet he dodges bullets (even machine gun fire) nearly 100% of the time.


His Flash powers were mentioned in the comic. Let's not try to throw this showing away just because you don't want to debate it. Amazo even fighting on Earth should be a problem since he doesn't hold back while still possessing all of the powers of the JLA. Prime who doesn't hold back swing from his punches alone, the shockwaves should destroy nearby cities. There's nothing science about comic and Dark now changing his stance (yet again) saying comic science doesn't even make sense.


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His Flash powers were mentioned in the comic. Let's not try to throw this showing away just because you don't want to debate it. Amazo even fighting on Earth should be a problem since he doesn't hold back while still possessing all of the powers of the JLA. Prime who doesn't hold back swing from his punches alone, the shockwaves should destroy nearby cities. There's nothing science about comic and Dark now changing his stance (yet again) saying comic science doesn't even make sense.


Why are you so dense, lol.

Batman's feats, whilst stupid according to RL science, is still grounded in comic science.

Hercules' feats, whilst stupid according to RL science, is grounded in....him being the son of a literal god, lmao.

Atlas' feats, whilst stupid according to RL science, is....well he literally powers Shazam, is a Titan (so a god lol), and is a magical fricking being, lmao.


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And it's scientifically possible that a man can fly, shoot heat vision from his eyes, ice breath. It's possible a man can be dosed with enough radiation to kill a country but he turns into a super strong monster. It's possible that the weight of the sun can be on earth? Possible that a black hole can exist on a planet? Lmao, I like your idea of science. It's funny you consider even using real life science for a comic. You'll only do this for Superman though.


Please quote me where I am using RL science, or just admit you are lying and making stuff up.

Of course, a 2nd option is that you simply don't understand how to read, but I am being charitable and nice, and don't believe that anyone can be this biased/stupid.


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Originally posted by carver9
Talking about this scene, my friend.

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...8/3850808-1.jpg

And you also intentionally left out the part where it said he had the Flash abilities...

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...8/3850811-4.jpg


1) General statement about Amazo's standard powerset.

Mere few pages later, we learn it does not apply to that prototype unit.

2) Maybe he had Flash's speed, maybe he didn't. Batman disabled the leg on the beginning, effectively preventing him from using superspeed, as it's better to be safe than sorry.


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Read the damn comic, carver.

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Reading comic books doesn't nuke your brain.

It doesn't even hurt.

Try it sometime, carver.


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His Flash powers were mentioned in the comic. Let's not try to throw this showing away just because you don't want to debate it. Amazo even fighting on Earth should be a problem since he doesn't hold back while still possessing all of the powers of the JLA. Prime who doesn't hold back swing from his punches alone, the shockwaves should destroy nearby cities. There's nothing science about comic and Dark now changing his stance (yet again) saying comic science doesn't even make sense.
How do you explain when characters don't perform according to their capabilities in comics.
Spidey is a bullet timer and has Pre cog SS. Explain why he got tagged by speeds slower than a bullet?


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How do you explain when characters don't perform according to their capabilities in comics.
Spidey is a bullet timer and has Pre cog SS. Explain why he got tagged by speeds slower than a bullet?


So science is the reason Spidey gets tagged by things slower than bullets?


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When Superman rebuilt the moon and you and Phil came up with speeds on how fast he did it, Darksaint, did you use comic book math?


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Yes we did.

Because it wasn't magic laughing out loud

1+1 still equals 2 in comics.

Here you go Carvy.

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Unless otherwise stated, it's a general rule that things tend to work along the same lines, assuming they're not identical. It's like, a basic rule of fiction.

Carver is wrong. Again.


Generally, we assume plants in DC work on photosynthesis, like the real world.

Humans shit, eat, breathe, need food and water....biology is generally the same even if we aren't explicitly shown it. Things fall due to gravity, that kinda thing. Science is science.

This is basic.

With all that said, holding up the heavens still has a magical aspect to it, like it or not.


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So you used real world math or comic book math? Explain how Superman was able to rebuild the moon or how that is even possible? Without resorting to magic, how did Superman build the moon.


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