1. Apparently both Odin and Thor can fly as you see was Jane was flying (without the hammer) with a small asteroid in her hands. So it's possible They could have been flying during those punches.
2. All of Jane's fights in an atmosphere doesn't match your assumption of the feat.
3. Barely creates a crater when knocked to a moon.
We know that Superman wasn't moving at top speed because in the next issue he says he has to start moving faster to keep up with Doomsday.
You're trying so hard to build up that feat into something bigger than it is. They weren't spread out; they were basically standing in a line. Most of them have no superspeed.
Can we infer that DoS Doomsday was fast? Sure.
Fast enough to blitz Jane? No. No proof that he was moving faster than Jane's neurosurgery feat. No proof that he was moving faster than Mjolnir.
They were spread out (sideways from each other, not front to back lol). Superman does need to concentrate to increase his speed. But his natural speed (no concentration needed) is already insane. He even has a nanosecond speed feat before that event (no concentration necessary).
They can all be bowling pins for all I care. You can't hit 5 individuals (separated sideways by a few feet apart with Superman included) all at the same time without being insanely fast.
We have no idea how fast Jane was moving. But that is a very good speed feat.
Looking again, she's faster than I once thought. Might have to rethink this fight.
I'll just say this.
If DD was moving anything close to the speed of light or above then he wins. If he was moving significantly slower (which Superman complains of his speed would make that nonsensical) then he loses.
With speed equalized the Jane wins imo. But if DD is significantly faster then I feel he wins.
Yeah this strict anally-retentive (not to mention) incorrect reading of the rules is mysterious.
Are we to ignore, for example, what Odin has done in previous interactions prior to meeting Jane Thor (so 'classic' Odin)? Does Superman suddenly lose his origin story since it wasn't depicted in DoS?
i don't understand why all of byrne-era superman's showings before DOS wouldn't be valid here? just seems like an odd way to passively lowball superman (and therefore doomsday). likewise, wouldn't doomsday's showings from the annual also be valid given that they take place before DOS?
Fwiw, my intention was to use the same DoS Doomsday referred to in the tiers thread. People can argue about what that means if they want, but don't rely on additional constraints imposed by OP.
As well, when I wrote "Fight in NYC", I didn't mean confined to NYC. Just a starting point. Shoulda been clearer.
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