Because you want to have everything spoon-fed to you. I gave you the details of the feats with the comic details and you're still whining like a *****.
Knock yourself out. I gave you the books name, do your own research.
Lolwut? They are literally discount Kryptonians (diluted DNA) who were given lead weakness by Eradicator.
Then Superman uses superspeed, flies somewhere else (but still within HV range) and....repeats.
Then HV would matter. Or he does it internally, inside Thor's brain.
But as for a fair time period?I honestly cannot say.It is in the space of four panels, which means nothing, so absent anything else, I would continue to use the analogy of a human with a candle.
I did not refuse to source it, I gave you a source - two words, S and M.
Refusing to EXPLICITLY reference something isn't conceding - I do not have to do your homework for you.
Also, nowhere does it state he's breathing solar plasma for weeks, any more than me diving into a pool every day for weeks = me breathing water for weeks.
Anyway, Captain Atom and Major Force are coated with dilustel which automatically reroutes all energy through quantum field and thus simply can't be burned.
If I have 10 showings of Superman being taken out by tractor level attacks, and that means that's consistent for Superman, then it's not a low - it's consistent.
10 highs, not 10 lows. Averages and highs. Most of you debate primarily off of highs and ignore the in between. I'm guessing this is why it's difficult understanding the point of the thread since a group of you debating style is digging through a bunch of comics looking for that characters best. Here, it's the exact opposite. Highs aren't unusable here, you just have to find proof that it's a norm. No lows. We've never used them and won't here.
But this goes back to my initial question - what is 'consistent'?
You're saying it needs about 5 showings for Surfer (because he has so few appearances) and 10 for Superman/Thor. Once those 5 or 10 showings are posted, it's their average, their norm - you can't say it's a low.
So if Abhi comes in with 5 showings of Surfer doing something, it's consistent, then? You just know he's itching to post them, lol. Probably has entire folders dedicated to it......
If it's under their average, then it's considered a low. You posting Hulk getting chocked out by a snake 5 times would be considered a low. You posting Hulk busting a planet 5 times with his pinkie would be considered a high. You posting Hulk punching a mountain to dust in 5 hits would be considered an average because we know what level these character operate at.
On average, Wolverine tussle with Captain America and Spiderman level characters. If I post 5 showings of him enduring punches to the face from Hulk/Superman level beings and he's okay afterwards, I can not discredit that showing. If someone counter that by posting Wolverine getting knocked out by a deer, then that's obviously a low showing. You're thinking waaaayyyy to hard on this. You know what a low showing is and you know what averages and high showings are. If you don't, then this thread just isn't for you.
Posting Surfer getting choked out by a snake or snake-level opponents, on 5 occasions (for example) = Surfer's average, according to your post.
So how can posting it a 6th time be a 'low'? Surely it is his average?
Using your Logan example, if I posted 5 separate times he was KOd by a deer, then...that's his average, no?
It sounds like your entire definition of what is 'average' is down to 'whatever I feel like at the time for the character'. Which could be 100% accurate, but that depends on you the reader having read every single comic of that character. And more often than not, one's bias/views will be injected into that character - you say you have read all of Hulk's appearances and think he's beyond herald level, abhi will counter that he has read all of them and Hulk is only mid-herald.
Surfer getting choked out by a snake is a low. A.V.E.R.A.G.E OR H.I.G.H. SHOWINGS ONLY. Erase lows from your skull.
Superman getting ran over by a tractor is a low showing, Hulk snake, Wolverine dear, Thanos Mexican, Thor falling from a building and dying, low. They are not welcomed in any thread, so don't use them here. Averages, Hulk punching a continental size meteor across space, Hulk bending secondary adamantium, Hulk throwing Fing Fang to the moon. High showings, Hulk shaking Earth in fist fights, Hulk cracking Thor skull in a single punch, Hulk tanking a scream that destroyed nearby stars, Hulk destroying a Universe in his fight against Night Crawler. The fts that are acceptable here, Averages, the fts that is also acceptable here, highs AS LONG AS YOU PROVIDE PROOF THAT HE DONE THESE HIGHS AT LEAST 5 TO 10 TIMES. If you can not provide proof that the highs has been done at least 5 to 10 times, then you will stick only to average showings. Example, I mention Surfer wins by blasting Superman to sleep with his powerful blasts. These are his average showings. Dark say, naah, that's not going to happen because Superman will blitz Surfer throughout the entire fight at nano second speeds. I ask for combat showings of Superman combating at light speeds but you can only show me 1 scan of him doing this (since combating at light speed is obviously a high showing). If you can't give me at least 10 instances of him combating at 186000 mps, then it's unusable. High showings are acceptable as long as you can provide evidence of him doing it on panel more than 5 or more. Averages, all fts are acceptable, lows are not acceptable at all.
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