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Soljer
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Originally posted by Accel
I never said infinity was a number, just that the adjectives "infinite" and "limitless" mean the same thing- that something can approach infinity, but will never reach it. I'm well aware of what infinity is.


If you are so enlightened and knowledgable, you are certainly not displaying it. The concepts could not be more separate, friend.


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Those are rather elementary, over-simplified definitions. Take any thousand-level math course at Uni, and you'll learn the difference. Limitless and Infinite are entirely separate concepts.

Also, while the Hulk has allegedly healed from atoms, the Flash need not obliterate him. All he need do is KO him for the win. Even in a fight 'to the death,' the Flash can always just dump him into the speed force.

Also, on the topic of the Hulk tagging the Flash? Nope. Never. Not a single time out of a googleplex of tries. It would never happen. The Flash could STAND there, and LET the Hulk ATTEMPT to hit him, and simply vibrate through the Hulk's fist. Or, alternatively, he could be completely imperceptible, considering YEARS would pass for the Flash, and the Hulk wouldn't have moved an inch.

If the Flash really wanted to put the Hulk's healing factor to the test, he could use the infinite mass punch over and over again. For endless centuries. And in the Hulk's perception, seconds MAY have passed.
I have, there really isn’t any difference to something that doesn’t have an end. There is always a change that Hulk can hit Flash, saying there is not is ludicrous, Flash is still human and can make a mistake and the probability of this is very slim to none, ergo my comment about the Powerball. Plus I didn’t say that Flash wouldn’t win the fight, doesn’t anyone read my posts.


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If you are so enlightened and knowledgable, you are certainly not displaying it. The concepts could not be more separate, friend.

You mean the words "infinite" and "unlimited?" If both words mean something doesn't have a limit, then how are they different?

Keep in mind, I'm not debating the difference between the words "infinity" and "limitless," but rather "infinite" and "limitless."

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You mean the words "infinite" and "unlimited?" If both words mean something doesn't have a limit, then how are they different?

Keep in mind, I'm not debating the difference between the words "infinity" and "limitless," but rather "infinite" and "limitless."


Infinite is simply the adjective form of the word infinity. Infinite and infinity are one and the same. Limitless and either of the aforementioned words ARE NOT.

There is a difference between something not having a limit, and something being infinite. The universe is limitless, but it is not infinite. Ugh, dissertations could be written upon the topic of limitless versus infinite. Suffice it to say, they are, in fact, entirely different beasts.


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They aren't that ridiculous, the flash has been able to charge things with kinetic energy by vibrating through them, causing them to explode.

He has performed infinite mass punches.

He has created vacuums.

And he could throw that steel at near-lightspeed. If not far greater than lightspeed.

What of the straw that goes through telephone poles? Ignoring the fact that matter increases in mass as it increases in speed, a piece of straw can pierce a telephone pole in hurricane force winds. Imagine a piece of steel at lightspeed. The hulk has been pierced by less.


I know all that. Really. I'm just arguing that he doesn't have to die from it.

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I know all that. Really. I'm just arguing that he doesn't have to die from it.


Something which I've acknowledged. The Hulk can supposedly heal from the atomic level. However, no matter how fast the Hulk heals, I think taking him down to the atomic level would count as a win, as far as the versus forum is concerned.

And if it isn't, dumping the Hulk into the speedforce CERTAINLY is.

The Flash still wins 10/10.

Oh, and Pittman, it ISN'T unreasonable to say that the Hulk would never land a hit. It ISN'T ludicrous. From the Flash's point of view, the Hulk would be totally immobile. For years. Decades. Centuries. The Flash could stay at top speed, Infinite mass punching him for YEARS before the Hulk even realizes he's been hit. Millenia before the Hulk could ever pull back a punch. An ETERNITY before the Hulk would EVER be able to punch enough times to land a connecting blow.

EDIT: I also wanted to point out that this eternity I'm speaking of is simply due to the Flash's perception, due to his incredible speed. This isn't even starting on the topic of a speed steal. Which would, in fact, not allow the hulk to EVER move a muscle.


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Infinite is simply the adjective form of the word infinity. Infinite and infinity are one and the same. Limitless and either of the aforementioned words ARE NOT.

There is a difference between something not having a limit, and something being infinite. The universe is limitless, but it is not infinite. Ugh, dissertations could be written upon the topic of limitless versus infinite. Suffice it to say, they are, in fact, entirely different beasts.

It really depends on how they are used. Often times, "infinite" CAN mean that one has no limits and is thus, "limitless."

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Something which I've acknowledged. The Hulk can supposedly heal from the atomic level. However, no matter how fast the Hulk heals, I think taking him down to the atomic level would count as a win, as far as the versus forum is concerned.

And if it isn't, dumping the Hulk into the speedforce CERTAINLY is.

The Flash still wins 10/10.



You're mistaking me for someone who thinks Hulk can win.

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It really depends on how they are used. Often times, "infinite" CAN mean that one has no limits and is thus, "limitless."


By the uninformed, plenty of words can be used incorrectly.


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By the uninformed, plenty of words can be used incorrectly.

That wouldn't be using it incorrectly, as limitless is another definition for the word. Many words in the English language have multiple definitions.

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That wouldn't be using it incorrectly, as limitless is another definition for the word. Many words in the English language have multiple definitions.


*rolls eyes* And many of those 'multiple definitions' stem from the incorrect usage of the word in the vernacular.


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Discuss


There's nothing to discuss. Actually, I think the outcome would somewhat comical.....

The fight starts....Flash doesn't move, or so it seems he hasn't...like he skipped over a second in time. Then Hulk grabs head and says: Ugh! ...and collapses after he realizes he's been hit with 10000 nuggies.

Unless Flash has a brain fart, there is no way Hulk can win. wink

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Oh, and Pittman, it ISN'T unreasonable to say that the Hulk would never land a hit. It ISN'T ludicrous. From the Flash's point of view, the Hulk would be totally immobile. For years. Decades. Centuries. The Flash could stay at top speed, Infinite mass punching him for YEARS before the Hulk even realizes he's been hit. Millenia before the Hulk could ever pull back a punch. An ETERNITY before the Hulk would EVER be able to punch enough times to land a connecting blow.
Because Flash is not perfect and is subject to normal human flaws and can and will make mistakes. Flash can still get fatigued and needs to sleep and so on, this would make it possible how ever unlikely that it can happen.


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This is probably one of the most impressive feats I've ever seen Flash perform. In these scans, Kyle is mind controlled and is attempting to fire a blast at Wonder Woman. She is only about 20 feet away, and when the blast reaches the half way point, Flash springs to action. Keep in mind that the Kyle's blast is going at the speed of light. He scans FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND people to find the people responsible for mind controlling Kyle. He finds them both, and puts them in the line of fire from Kyle's blasts and gets Wonder Woman out of the way. To top it all off he did this in LESS than a PICOSECOND. Awesome feat. rock

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Yeah, Hulk never TOUCHES Flash.


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Which is funny because the speed of light is FAR faster then the speed of thought.


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Which is funny because the speed of light is FAR faster then the speed of thought.


They are the same.

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They are the same.


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They are the same.
The speed of light is 299,792,458 m/s and the fastest any human could possible ever think would be 186,000 m/s which a normal human thinks around 30 m/s.


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Um yes they are, Do the research on it. We are talking about the actual speed of the impulses that are sent out. They are moving at light speed. The human brain just isn't connected well enough or advanced enough to move the impulses along. Research things before you just say no or make some numbers.


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Um yes they are, Do the research on it. We are talking about the actual speed of the impulses that are sent out. They are moving at light speed. The human brain just isn't connected well enough or advanced enough to move the impulses along. Research things before you just say no or make some numbers.
I have done research on it and the only thing that can move at the speed of light in “reality” is a photon and our brain doesn’t use them to transmit the bio-chemical reaction or impulse between the neurons. Electricity is the flow of electrons and anything with mass can not travel at the speed of light unless in a vacuum and our brain isn’t one. The fastest that electricity can travel not in a vacuum is 186,000 m/s.


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