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Originally posted by FeceMan
"It'll be like Big Brother, except somebody'll be watching."

...Why do we care what people from Big Brother think (or feel, for that matter)?

Big Brother gets millions of viewers...

People care what people in Big Brother think and say when it results in people in India burning effigies.


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Originally posted by FeceMan
"It'll be like Big Brother, except somebody'll be watching."

...Why do we care what people from Big Brother think (or feel, for that matter)?


Sarcasm?

I care what the people in the house think and feel because first and foremost they're people, not 'housemates'.


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Originally posted by Syren
Sarcasm?

I care what the people in the house think and feel because first and foremost they're people, not 'housemates'.


What about the 4 billion other households in the world? I think they're feeling left out. Where's the love?


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Originally posted by Syren
Sarcasm?

I care what the people in the house think and feel because first and foremost they're people, not 'housemates'.


Yeah, people that aren't contributing anything positive to society, yet they will end up millionaires, probably. Jade Goody's a millionaire for crying out loud.

They don't deserve concern. They are sheep, don't say "They're people" as if they don't deserve the shit they get. They signed up, they deserve everything they get for the worst. They don't deserve money and endorsements for doing nothing.

The funny thing is, my mum said to my grandfather this morning; "Oh it's terrible all those racist remarks, she's a lovely girl. They should leave the nice girl in the house and kick the others out.".

A) How do you know? Met her? No.

B) Why would you elect to keep a nice person in a place like that?

It genuinely takes a certain sadness of life to remotely enjoy that show. At least with American Idol etc I can understand people who watch the early stages to see the embarassing auditions, Big Brother is bs and everyone associated with it should be executed.

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Yeah, people that aren't contributing anything positive to society, yet they will end up millionaires, probably. Jade Goody's a millionaire for crying out loud.

They don't deserve concern. They are sheep, don't say "They're people" as if they don't deserve the shit they get. They signed up, they deserve everything they get for the worst. They don't deserve money and endorsements for doing nothing.

The funny thing is, my mum said to my grandfather this morning; "Oh it's terrible all those racist remarks, she's a lovely girl. They should leave the nice girl in the house and kick the others out.".

A) How do you know? Met her? No.

B) Why would you elect to keep a nice person in a place like that?

It genuinely takes a certain sadness of life to remotely enjoy that show. At least with American Idol etc I can understand people who watch the early stages to see the embarassing auditions, Big Brother is bs and everyone associated with it should be executed.

-AC


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I don't think I've once disagreed with anything you've said regarding this. Still feel a sort of sympathy for the way Shilpa's been treated, sorry.

They should close the program down for good and sue the producers... whoever 'they' are.


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Originally posted by Syren
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I don't think I've once disagreed with anything you've said regarding this. Still feel a sort of sympathy for the way Shilpa's been treated, sorry.

They should close the program down for good and sue the producers... whoever 'they' are.


Why sue the producers?

They say "Do you want to be in the house?" and celebrities dying for exposure jump at the chance. It's not the producers' fault.

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Creators, then? Whoever came up with the idea... I don't know TV jargon stick out tongue


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No, I mean it's nobody's fault but the people who go in.

What dangers would the show present if nobody was on it? None. If you choose to go on it you get what you get.

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I think it's to do with a little more than just the people who go in. BB is set up from the offset, with the people who are 'chosen' or approached to go in, to the tasks set, to the scenarios presented and so on. This does lie with the producers, or creators... or whatever. The people are complete muppets for going in in the first place, but the BB crew do pull the strings. And now, even after all the controversy, whoever has the power to pull the plug and do the right thing by all of us hasn't bothered. Woohoo, ratings are up! Sod the morals and ethics (albeit few to begin with), popularity has peaked. It's a little disturbing, to be honest... if this recent debate hasn't killed the show, what will? erm

I suppose you would have had to watch at least a couple of the shows to see how the people in the house are 'controlled'. It's not entirely their fault for just going in.


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Controversy sells...that's why Big Brother is still on the air. The more attention you give them...the more they will be on the air.


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Originally posted by Syren
I think it's to do with a little more than just the people who go in. BB is set up from the offset, with the people who are 'chosen' or approached to go in


Stop there. "Approached to go in...", if they accept this far into the show's lifespan, they have themselves to blame and nobody else, and they can leave, I know for a fact it's happened before because I know people who watch it, even though I don't.

If it was the first show, they wouldn't know what to expect, but it'd still be their fault. Now? No excuse. You went in there, you get what you get. Not saying it's right or wrong, I'm saying you get what you get.

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if this recent debate hasn't killed the show, what will? erm


People stopping the ratings by not watching, but they won't cos they're sad.

You've even been sucked into watching it and will continue to probably, just to see how the racism goes. Don't sit there complaining that they've got ratings up because of it when you continue to give them the ratings because of it.

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I suppose you would have had to watch at least a couple of the shows to see how the people in the house are 'controlled'. It's not entirely their fault for just going in.


A) It is their fault entirely.

B) You're as controlled for watching it. Don't think you've gained some kind of independence for speaking against Big Brother, you still watch it.

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Stop there. "Approached to go in...", if they accept this far into the show's lifespan, they have themselves to blame and nobody else, and they can leave, I know for a fact it's happened before because I know people who watch it, even though I don't.

If it was the first show, they wouldn't know what to expect, but it'd still be their fault. Now? No excuse. You went in there, you get what you get. Not saying it's right or wrong, I'm saying you get what you get.


Ok, I agree with that. They can leave. But perhaps Shilpa's staying to prove a point? This is all conjecture on my part as I don't have the first clue about the woman, apart from what we've been fed.

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People stopping the ratings by not watching, but they won't cos they're sad.

You've even been sucked into watching it and will continue to probably, just to see how the racism goes. Don't sit there complaining that they've got ratings up because of it when you continue to give them the ratings because of it.

A) It is their fault entirely.

B) You're as controlled for watching it. Don't think you've gained some kind of independence for speaking against Big Brother, you still watch it.

-AC


I'm no longer watching it, does that make a difference? In fact, even when I did catch the odd show it was never intentional, it was simply on when I flicked channels and it stayed on as there was probably nothing else that appealed to me at the time. I don't watch all that much TV, either working, online or out. As if I'm looking to gain 'some kind of independence' by discussing all this. Why am I even justifying having watched a few of the shows this time around?? laughing out loud

Regardless, I don't agree that it's entirely the housemates' fault. I've explained why smile


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Originally posted by Syren
But perhaps Shilpa's staying to prove a point?


Then we're supposed to defend her why? She's not heroic for tolerating racism, she's stupid for tolerating it. I wouldn't be surprised if it was all a part of the plan I described earlier.

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Regardless, I don't agree that it's entirely the housemates' fault. I've explained why smile


And your argument makes no sense.

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Then we're supposed to defend her why? She's not heroic for tolerating racism, she's stupid for tolerating it. I wouldn't be surprised if it was all a part of the plan I described earlier.


Now I think you're making too much of this. I never said defend her individually. I simply said if the treatment she's received isn't enough to warrant the program being stopped then what would be?

As for the plan, you mean the entire thing being set up from the start? Makes sense, she is an actress stick out tongue

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And your argument makes no sense.

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Ok, so run it by me again, explain why my argument is nonsensical. I'm not getting it.

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