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dadudemon
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Edward being left a useless pile of rubble yet still alive is a forum win.

Yes, that's true. But I was just correcting something you stated in your post. Don't ignore that Robtard was wrong about something: let me have my moment. mad

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Oct 18th, 2012 05:54 PM

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Yup. No way to calculate that speed feet as his position was instantly moved from one place to the next. We'd need a very high-speed camera to put it into slow mo to be able to calculate actually how fast he moved. I tired, man: there is just nothing tangible to show movement that I can use to do a "calc" with. It is stuck at "distance/0 time" which is "infinite" or "undefined".

You being unable to calculate his speed doesn't make it teleportation, instant, or infinite.

To suggest so is completely disingenuous.

And for this you forfeit your ability to post in Twilight threads, good day.

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You being unable to calculate his speed doesn't make it teleportation, instant, or infinite.

I agree.That would require an infinite amount of energy which Edward does not have.

We can't do the calc, however, because it is instant and even a frame by frame does not help.

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To suggest so is completely disingenuous.

Not at all: it is simple math. We are still stuck with distance/0.

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And for this you forfeit your ability to post in Twilight threads, good day.

And you forfeit that fine ass I always see hanging off those muscley arms!

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Oct 18th, 2012 09:06 PM

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Yes, that's true. But I was just correcting something you stated in your post. Don't ignore that Robtard was wrong about something: let me have my moment.

Concession accepted.

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Concession accepted.

That makes no sense. I R confused.

Show me your wife's boobs and I'll concede.

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Oct 18th, 2012 09:13 PM

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1) You're partially correct, but also add what's been said before, easily swinging around motorcycles, kicking down steel poles and making indents in concrete with a stomp.

2) They don't regen from being broken apart, at least not quickly and they die from decapitation.

3) Correct, you're giving Edward what he specifically didn't show. Go with shown feats.

4) Nonsense question. We have no idea what Law's stamina is, but if it scales with his other abilities compared to humans, he could probably fight for days if not weeks without getting tired. But that's a moot point, this fight's not taking a day, let alone an hour.

1. All of which pale in comparison to Edward pushing over the tree.

2. Yu Law has never shown the strength required to rip apart a Twilight vampire. Accept it.

3. Edward can read a room full of peoples thoughts upon entering a room, he can read Yu Law's just as easily.

4. What is stamina? What do humans do when their stamina runs out?

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1. All of which pale in comparison to Edward pushing over the tree.

2. Yu Law has never shown the strength required to rip apart a Twilight vampire. Accept it.

3. Edward can read a room full of peoples thoughts upon entering a room, he can read Yu Law's just as easily.

4. What is stamina? What do humans do when their stamina runs out?

Arguable, but the point wasn't "Law is stronger", the point is that Law has enough strength to break Edward apart. /fact

Except he has, as noted. He can indent concrete with a minor foot stomp, let alone his other feats. /fact

So he'll know that Law wants to kill him, great he already knows that since this is a fight. /fact

Go back and read what I said and don't strawman.

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Arguable, but the point wasn't "Law is stronger", the point is that Law has enough strength to break Edward apart. /fact

No, not a fact.

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Except he has, as noted. He can indent concrete with a minor foot stomp, let alone his other feats. /fact

He hasn't, actually. Going by feats, it takes Edward's strength or greater. That's in the hundreds of tonnes of force, as I have demonstrated with white papers, in the past. Yu Law did not demonstrate that power in the movies.

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So he'll know that Law wants to kill him, great he already knows that since this is a fight. /fact

Other things, as well. Such as, "I will try an uppercut after a jab, next..." That's a humongous strategic advantage for someone like Edward who is among the most educated and intelligent beings on the planet: only Carlisle has read more books than Edward. Vamps have photographic/eidetic memories.

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Go back and read what I said and don't strawman.

This is most directly a dodge of what Mr. Tibbs said. Address this directly instead of dodging. Bad form and that is quite lame of you.

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I'm sorry, when has Edwardo had ANY decent strength feats? I've seen all 4 of those crappy films and I can't remember anything impressive.

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Arguable, but the point wasn't "Law is stronger", the point is that Law has enough strength to break Edward apart. /fact

Except he has, as noted. He can indent concrete with a minor foot stomp, let alone his other feats. /fact

So he'll know that Law wants to kill him, great he already knows that since this is a fight. /fact

Go back and read what I said and don't strawman.

1. No, he is not strong enough to rip Edward apart. Edward's tree feat still trumps any Yu Law strength feat. Ignoring this will not change it.

2. Again, see above.

3. He'll know what Law is gonna do before Law does it, Jedi style.

4. Dodge.

Oct 20th, 2012 01:53 PM

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I'm sorry, when has Edwardo had ANY decent strength feats? I've seen all 4 of those crappy films and I can't remember anything impressive.

Tree.

Oct 20th, 2012 01:53 PM

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Tree.

That's it?

Oct 20th, 2012 03:05 PM

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I agree.That would require an infinite amount of energy which Edward does not have.

We can't do the calc, however, because it is instant and even a frame by frame does not help.

Not at all: it is simple math. We are still stuck with distance/0.

And you forfeit that fine ass I always see hanging off those muscley arms!

No, we have an unknown distance over an unknown time, neither would be 0, they would both be unknown variables. Even if distance were known and time wasn't, it's distance/t, or w/e variable you want to use, not 0.

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1. No, he is not strong enough to rip Edward apart. Edward's tree feat still trumps any Yu Law strength feat. Ignoring this will not change it.

2. Again, see above.

3. He'll know what Law is gonna do before Law does it, Jedi style.

4. Dodge.

I really don't care about the rest of your post, but stop lying about Edward being able to use his telepathy to help him fight, he has never done so in the movies, and won't in this thread.

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Oct 20th, 2012 05:23 PM

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That's it?

That's all that is needed. Plus the van, and tearing apart many a vampire.

Faster, stronger, far more stamina, telepathy, uber regen. What else do you want?

Oct 20th, 2012 06:27 PM

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1. No, he is not strong enough to rip Edward apart. Edward's tree feat still trumps any Yu Law strength feat. Ignoring this will not change it.

2. Again, see above.

3. He'll know what Law is gonna do before Law does it, Jedi style.

4. Dodge.

Going from what? Edward [likely] being stronger doesn't = 'Law can't hurt him', what a stupid line of reasoning.

Again, see above.

Nope. Stop giving Edward abilities he's never shown, he's no Jedi/Sith.

Nope. You strawmanned what I said. Go back and read. Stamina is not an issue here, as this fight isn't lasting even an hour.

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Going from what? Edward [likely] being stronger doesn't = 'Law can't hurt him', what a stupid line of reasoning.

Again, see above.

Nope. Stop giving Edward abilities he's never shown, he's no Jedi/Sith.

Nope. You strawmanned what I said. Go back and read. Stamina is not an issue here, as this fight isn't lasting even an hour.

Oct 20th, 2012 06:39 PM

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That's all that is needed. Plus the van, and tearing apart many a vampire.

Faster, stronger, far more stamina, telepathy, uber regen. What else do you want?

An actual strength feat would be nice. A good durability feat would be good to because iirc the wolves biting through twivamps with ease.

Oct 20th, 2012 06:43 PM

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No, we have an unknown distance over an unknown time,

False: we have a known distance and time frame. Time elapsed to cover that distance: 0.

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Even if distance were known and time wasn't, it's distance/t, or w/e variable you want to use, not 0.

t = 0, in this instance (pun intended).

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I'm sorry, when has Edwardo had ANY decent strength feats? I've seen all 4 of those crappy films and I can't remember anything impressive.

Stopping a van with a single hand by only holding out his hand. Puts him very nicely into a 5-10 ton class.

Then there is the time he pushed a tree over. That puts him into the 400 tonne (you read that right) range.

The fact that you do not remember anything impressive is due to sleeping while you watched all of the films.

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Hmmm...

RJ used to do this.

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Oct 20th, 2012 06:43 PM

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False: we have a known distance and time frame. Time elapsed to cover that distance: 0.

t = 0, in this instance (pun intended).

What's the distance?

The time is not 0.

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Oct 20th, 2012 07:02 PM