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Originally posted by quanchi112
Intelligence and speed. Godzilla might just pass out trying to keep up with him.


The fact that you think Godzilla will pass out trying to hit Smaug shows without a doubt why you are the Worst debater on this entire site.

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What does this even mean?

How is Smaug's intelligence going to let him beat Godzilla in a fight?

Is Smaug going to build an anti-matter super weapon out of sticks and stones on the fly in this fight to beat Godzilla?

Is he going to built a trap?

I don't see how Smaug being able to talk in anyway gives him an advantage here.

This isn't a spelling bee, this is a fight, and frankly, in terms of combat, Godzilla demonstrated more intelligence.

The fact that this thread has gone on this long is insulting imo. Smaug has not shown anything to suggest he can even damage Godzilla. And I don't even know why people are harping on his speed as if he's Quicksilver or something. Did everyone forget about the hobbits?
He's not smart enough to make any kind of difference here. He was still outsmarted relatively easily by a few midevil dwarves.

Some of you are acting like Smaug is some kind of Harvard grad or something. lol


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He's not smart enough to make any kind of difference here. He was still outsmarted relatively easily by a few midevil dwarves.

Some of you are acting like Smaug is some kind of Harvard grad or something. lol


How do you know he didn't shifty

But Godzilla wins, he managed to WTF b*tch tail slap that MUTO outta the sky and impale it on a building. I could picture Godzilla accidentally stepping on Smaug and squashing him thus winning wink


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Is Smaug going to build an anti-matter super weapon out of sticks and stones on the fly in this fight to beat Godzilla?
Yes. thumb up


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I read some pretty funny comments here lol Loved the movie, and it left me on a cliffhanger the likes that would hike Mother Theresa's panties up her butt, but there is a huge size difference between Smaug and Godzilla. I have my doubts on Smaug taking out a cat 3 Kaiju, and people are arguing if he'd have the goods to beat the King of Monsters? Then comes the smarts argument, this is what really made me chuckle. So are we arguing that Bill Gates would beat Fedor Emelianenko at his best because he's smarter? Smaug is too small, and he simply doesn't have the tools to win this.


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Lol even showa's Godzilla would **** him up.

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The fact that you think Godzilla will pass out trying to hit Smaug shows without a doubt why you are the Worst debater on this entire site.
Smaug is far faster and can fly. Can Godzilla fly ? Has Godzilla passed out due to exhaustion ?

Calm down.


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Again, how does Godzilla being worn down after fighting two MUTO's, both far more powerful than Smaug, support in anyway Godzilla losing in this thread?

Explain to me your logic. If you think Smaug wins because his voice gets you wet, that's fine, just don't pretend it's based on any sort of evidence.
I disagree that they are more powerful than Smaug.


Smaug is faster, can damage Godzilla, can tire Godzilla, can fly, and is intelligent unlike Zilla.

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Godzilla collapsed after fighting the two MUTO's multiple times and chasing them across the globe.

How does this do anything but prove he has amazing stamina that could not possibly be worn down by a small and weak opponent like Smaug?
He wasn't constantly fighting he had time to rest and pursue.

Smaug can fly and is far more evasive and deadly than the flying muto.


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Smaug didn't seem like the type to evade anything, but more of a bullrush kind of monster. I also noticed that he couldn't have been that fast or bright, because he sat there as the golden statue covered him in molten gold. Maybe he was cocky, or maybe he was dumb, but a smart move would have been to evade the substance. I mean what if poison or some other agent was mixed in with the gold, that could have placed him in a bad position?

It also took him quite a while to burst through that steel gate. Godzilla would have smashed through it with one hit, which pretty much shows the difference in power. Who cares if Smaug can fly, how does that automatically equate to Godzilla not being able to hit him with his breath weapon? Let's not make it seem like Smaug was flying at the speed of light. Godzilla's land speed is far greater than Smaugs as well, so he had better not be grounded or it's ouchy time. Godzilla wins.


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Smaug didn't face anyone near his size. He was tricked and still tanked the gold like it was nothing. Godzilla isn't intelligent and will be a gigantic target for Smaug. Too fast, too lethal, too smart, for Zilla.


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What makes you believe that Smaug was smarter than Godzilla? What gives you the idea that he was tireless? What makes you think that he could hurt Godzilla when he was having a hard time breaking down that steel gate? Godzilla towers over him to the point that Smaug would see him and run. If that is what you call smarter, I grant you that one point, which is his brain telling him that he can not win.


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Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree that they are more powerful than Smaug.


Smaug is faster, can damage Godzilla, can tire Godzilla, can fly, and is intelligent unlike Zilla.

smile


What feats does Smaug have that compare to the damage the MUTO's were capable of unleashing?

Based on what, can he damage Godzilla or tire him out?

He might be more maneuverable due to his size but it won't change anything. Nor will his intelligence.


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Smaug didn't face anyone near his size. He was tricked and still tanked the gold like it was nothing. Godzilla isn't intelligent and will be a gigantic target for Smaug. Too fast, too lethal, too smart, for Zilla.


Let me refresh your memory:



Godzilla's atomic breath vs. Smaug? Lol.


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He wasn't constantly fighting he had time to rest and pursue.

Smaug can fly and is far more evasive and deadly than the flying muto.


Throughout the movie, he was either fighting or pursuing. He didn't have time to take a nap or something of the sort unless I'm forgetting something?

Why is he far more evasive or deadly?


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Throughout the movie, he was either fighting or pursuing. He didn't have time to take a nap or something of the sort unless I'm forgetting something?

Why is he far more evasive or deadly?
We see him relaxing in the water. We don't see him fighting nonstop. If I stop fighting and walk aren't I recovering ?

Watch the movies and can see the obvious speed difference.


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Let me refresh your memory:



Godzilla's atomic breath vs. Smaug? Lol.
Godzillas breath only hurt the mutos significantly when aimed down the ones throat. Smaug's fire is faster as well. Godzillas breath didn't seem all that destructive. Can't see your video on my iPad either if you posted one.


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What makes you believe that Smaug was smarter than Godzilla? What gives you the idea that he was tireless? What makes you think that he could hurt Godzilla when he was having a hard time breaking down that steel gate? Godzilla towers over him to the point that Smaug would see him and run. If that is what you call smarter, I grant you that one point, which is his brain telling him that he can not win.
We see intelligence in Smaug and see he can think and reason. We don't see the same with Godzilla. It's like you saying why isn't that tiger as smart as that person ?

laughing out loud

When did Smaug have a hard time ?


Godzilla showed he can tire and pass out due to exhaustion so we know it can happen since it has happened. Evidence supports that unlike Smaug who has flight.


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What feats does Smaug have that compare to the damage the MUTO's were capable of unleashing?

Based on what, can he damage Godzilla or tire him out?

He might be more maneuverable due to his size but it won't change anything. Nor will his intelligence.
Fire.


The Godzilla film. We see him get hurt throughout the film. I have no idea why you think he is immune when we see him hurt the entire time. You need evidence to suggest his skin is imperious and you don't have any.


So intelligence, size, and flight won't matter because you say so. Dear lord.


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This topic is over. it's been pointed out rightly over and over again that Godzilla is immune to the heat from a nuclear blast so smaug has no way to hurt him you stupid clown go die.


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